Part of the problem there is that the left is pretty much against self-control.
They're against rules in general, they're really against rules you are supposed to uphold yourself (for people they have ideologically, captured, of course. More normal people would be on the trains to the camps already if this lot were capable of making the trains run on time). They probably view it as some kind of psychological torture - after all, isn't just far easier to submit to your basest urges and then play language games to make the inevitable fallout someone else's problem?
Part of the problem there is that the left is pretty much against self-control.
It really is frustrating, how different the mindsets are. I'd be happy to reach some sort of actual compromise with leftists...unfortunately leftists live in a completely different reality, so such a thing is impractical at best.
There's that saying that that liberalism is a mental disorder. That's not quite right, but I think leftism largely is, and the leftist mindset is pretty fucking damaged. They're cultist narcissists who have decided they're morally superior to everyone else, and no one else understands what they do, and their opponents basically aren't even real people. It's twisted.
They're against rules in general, they're really against rules you are supposed to uphold yourself...
Which is sad. I'm against not all, but plenty of rules, but think you do have to have consistent personal principles. The blank slate, post-modernist, everything is valid bullshit is evil. There have to be some rules - in my own personal opinion as few as possible, as more than that is infringement - and you have to have standards you hold yourself to. That concept is completely alien to the types of people we're talking about.
There's that saying that that liberalism is a mental disorder. That's not quite right, but I think leftism largely is, and the leftist mindset is pretty fucking damaged.
Agreed. Unfortunately, liberalism - for all that I am a liberal - does fall victim to a leftie ideology specifically designed to infiltrate and destroy liberal ideologies and then wear them like some kind of skinsuit trophy.
I'd be happy to reach some sort of actual compromise with leftists
Also agreed, unfortunately, the only kind of "compromise" lefties seem to acknowledge is the one where you're dead, your children are gay and they're dancing on your grave. A lot of lefties simply do not seem to know how to de-escalate - it's not a skill the leftie ideology prizes - instead preferring to escalate until it reaches the level that involves the authorities, who will always come down on their side.
Part of the problem there is that the left is pretty much against self-control.
They're against rules in general, they're really against rules you are supposed to uphold yourself (for people they have ideologically, captured, of course. More normal people would be on the trains to the camps already if this lot were capable of making the trains run on time). They probably view it as some kind of psychological torture - after all, isn't just far easier to submit to your basest urges and then play language games to make the inevitable fallout someone else's problem?
It really is frustrating, how different the mindsets are. I'd be happy to reach some sort of actual compromise with leftists...unfortunately leftists live in a completely different reality, so such a thing is impractical at best.
There's that saying that that liberalism is a mental disorder. That's not quite right, but I think leftism largely is, and the leftist mindset is pretty fucking damaged. They're cultist narcissists who have decided they're morally superior to everyone else, and no one else understands what they do, and their opponents basically aren't even real people. It's twisted.
Which is sad. I'm against not all, but plenty of rules, but think you do have to have consistent personal principles. The blank slate, post-modernist, everything is valid bullshit is evil. There have to be some rules - in my own personal opinion as few as possible, as more than that is infringement - and you have to have standards you hold yourself to. That concept is completely alien to the types of people we're talking about.
Agreed. Unfortunately, liberalism - for all that I am a liberal - does fall victim to a leftie ideology specifically designed to infiltrate and destroy liberal ideologies and then wear them like some kind of skinsuit trophy.
Also agreed, unfortunately, the only kind of "compromise" lefties seem to acknowledge is the one where you're dead, your children are gay and they're dancing on your grave. A lot of lefties simply do not seem to know how to de-escalate - it's not a skill the leftie ideology prizes - instead preferring to escalate until it reaches the level that involves the authorities, who will always come down on their side.