That wasn't the question you asked. And it's 1776.
You have been asserting that a nation is defined by its values, yet you are discussing deeply rooted and widespread violations of said values.
Some nations are defined by their values. Not all nations are the same, the US is one that is defined very explicitly by it's values.
You are just acknowledging that there were violations of America's supposed values that I left as of yet unmentioned in this conversation.
I've mentioned them several times, including slavery and racial discrimination.
No state is a perfect state. You are going to find hypocrisy so long as you look for it. The issue of slavery, which a wrote a ton about, was a difficult political compromise that inevitably lead to the Civil War. Slavery could not co-exist with Liberalism, and as a result it killed 2% of the population when the adjustment was made. Every single person knew the slavery issue was never going to go away because slavery and liberalism are antithetical. It never did until one, and only one, destroyed the other.
The American Experiment is based in the question of whether or not a Liberal society, based on values, can actually survive. Sorting out those contradictions is hard.
It's also odd that your bring up Jefferson. He believed blacks to be inferior to whites in many ways. His views on race and slavery were complex and contradictory. You cite his stated opposition to slavery, but he owned slaves himself.
He also tried to free those slaves, and was prevented by his own state from doing so. I don't see your point. He founded two countries based off of Liberalism and tried to fulfill his principles.
That wasn't the question you asked. And it's 1776.
You're right. I forgot how I phrased the idea. It was when did Americans become American. It's still unanswered.
No state is a perfect state. You are going to find hypocrisy so long as you look for it.
Racialism has been a permanent feature of America, though, and a major one. Most white Americans didn't support interracial marriage until the 1990s. By that point, we already had anti-white racial policies and a metastasizing anti-white culture.
The American Experiment is based in the question of whether or not a Liberal society, based on values, can actually survive.
I'd like to answer the question: No. I'm tired of being of being experimented on. I'm tired of letting BLM burn up the country, Jewish idpol organizations running amok like the one in the OP, Great Replacement, groomers, etc. It's over. It has failed. America's values were much better when they were less liberal.
You never asked that question at all, but it's still 1776.
Racialism has been a permanent feature of America, though, and a major one. Most white Americans didn't support interracial marriage until the 1990s. By that point, we already had anti-white racial policies and a metastasizing anti-white culture.
No, it's been a progressive feature in America. The American intellectual class tried to create a concept of 'white' around which the US could be ethnically constructed, and would still integrate the tens of thousands of abandoned Germans which would otherwise could have caused an absolute epidemic of racial and ethnic violence in America.
Meanwhile, in basically any area that didn't promote slavery, and was frontier, there was very little effort in focusing on even thinking about white populations. This is why Ohio was populated by Christian evangelists who were heavily integrated with immigrants, indians, pioneers, and freed slaves. Marrying an "Indian Squaw" wasn't common place. Racialist intellectuals were desperately trying to put a stop to it because most Americans actually didn't care.
I'd like to answer the question: No.
It wasn't a question. You can get the fuck out of my country.
America's values were much better when they were less liberal.
They were always liberal, whether you like it or not. It's founded on a Liberal Revolution.
You never asked that question at all, but it's still 1776.
Hey, remember when you wrote this: "The very reason the Americans became American is because they universalized English rights"
Which I replied to with: "Really? When was this? It couldn't be before the Civil War and the abolition of slavery, at the earliest."
That's what got the ball rolling on your whole nonsensical retcons.
"America is defined by its values."
"America's values have always been racialist."
"America is defined by being anti-racialist."
Beneath the 8 paragraph long rants, that's all you've been repeating these last few comments, and of course it's a bunch of contradictory nonsense.
No
Really? When was this mythical non-racialist period in America? It's certainly not now.
there was very little effort in focusing on even thinking about white populations
96% of white Americans don't have any African DNA, and I've already told you about white American opposing interracial marriage all the way into the 90s. You're just wrong.
You can get the fuck out of my country.
Your country, says the guy who loathes almost everyone who has every lived here and most of the major political figures.
I don't remember typing that. If I did, it was obviously a typo.
Really? When was this mythical non-racialist period in America? It's certainly not now.
Racialism is always popular with the elites, or anyone who dreams of being one by using a population as a bloc. Most of the time, the freer and less urbanized parts of America were always non-racialist including pioneer, frontier, religious, and rural communities that were much more prepared to integrate others into their culture.
Dense cities, however, relied on what we could call Multi-Culturalism to unify entire ethnic blocs into party boss systems that were easier to control.
As for now, most of America is anti-Racialist. It's why Progressive Racialists are constantly seeking to rationalize how they are totally not racist and are super anti-racist.
96% of white Americans don't have any African DNA, and I've already told you about white American opposing interracial marriage all the way into the 90s. You're just wrong.
100% of people have African DNA.
Your country, says the guy who loathes almost everyone who has every lived here and most of the major political figures.
No, just race gifting Leftists like yourself that need to get in the helicopter.
That wasn't the question you asked. And it's 1776.
Some nations are defined by their values. Not all nations are the same, the US is one that is defined very explicitly by it's values.
I've mentioned them several times, including slavery and racial discrimination.
No state is a perfect state. You are going to find hypocrisy so long as you look for it. The issue of slavery, which a wrote a ton about, was a difficult political compromise that inevitably lead to the Civil War. Slavery could not co-exist with Liberalism, and as a result it killed 2% of the population when the adjustment was made. Every single person knew the slavery issue was never going to go away because slavery and liberalism are antithetical. It never did until one, and only one, destroyed the other.
The American Experiment is based in the question of whether or not a Liberal society, based on values, can actually survive. Sorting out those contradictions is hard.
He also tried to free those slaves, and was prevented by his own state from doing so. I don't see your point. He founded two countries based off of Liberalism and tried to fulfill his principles.
You're right. I forgot how I phrased the idea. It was when did Americans become American. It's still unanswered.
Racialism has been a permanent feature of America, though, and a major one. Most white Americans didn't support interracial marriage until the 1990s. By that point, we already had anti-white racial policies and a metastasizing anti-white culture.
I'd like to answer the question: No. I'm tired of being of being experimented on. I'm tired of letting BLM burn up the country, Jewish idpol organizations running amok like the one in the OP, Great Replacement, groomers, etc. It's over. It has failed. America's values were much better when they were less liberal.
You never asked that question at all, but it's still 1776.
No, it's been a progressive feature in America. The American intellectual class tried to create a concept of 'white' around which the US could be ethnically constructed, and would still integrate the tens of thousands of abandoned Germans which would otherwise could have caused an absolute epidemic of racial and ethnic violence in America.
Meanwhile, in basically any area that didn't promote slavery, and was frontier, there was very little effort in focusing on even thinking about white populations. This is why Ohio was populated by Christian evangelists who were heavily integrated with immigrants, indians, pioneers, and freed slaves. Marrying an "Indian Squaw" wasn't common place. Racialist intellectuals were desperately trying to put a stop to it because most Americans actually didn't care.
It wasn't a question. You can get the fuck out of my country.
They were always liberal, whether you like it or not. It's founded on a Liberal Revolution.
Hey, remember when you wrote this: "The very reason the Americans became American is because they universalized English rights"
Which I replied to with: "Really? When was this? It couldn't be before the Civil War and the abolition of slavery, at the earliest."
That's what got the ball rolling on your whole nonsensical retcons.
"America is defined by its values."
"America's values have always been racialist."
"America is defined by being anti-racialist."
Beneath the 8 paragraph long rants, that's all you've been repeating these last few comments, and of course it's a bunch of contradictory nonsense.
Really? When was this mythical non-racialist period in America? It's certainly not now.
96% of white Americans don't have any African DNA, and I've already told you about white American opposing interracial marriage all the way into the 90s. You're just wrong.
Your country, says the guy who loathes almost everyone who has every lived here and most of the major political figures.
I don't remember typing that. If I did, it was obviously a typo.
Racialism is always popular with the elites, or anyone who dreams of being one by using a population as a bloc. Most of the time, the freer and less urbanized parts of America were always non-racialist including pioneer, frontier, religious, and rural communities that were much more prepared to integrate others into their culture.
Dense cities, however, relied on what we could call Multi-Culturalism to unify entire ethnic blocs into party boss systems that were easier to control.
As for now, most of America is anti-Racialist. It's why Progressive Racialists are constantly seeking to rationalize how they are totally not racist and are super anti-racist.
100% of people have African DNA.
No, just race gifting Leftists like yourself that need to get in the helicopter.