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Climate lies explained in 1 chart (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by NotAGlowy 3 years ago by NotAGlowy +36 / -0
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– yamez 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The changing climate (which isn't changing nearly as much as everybody seems to think) isn't a threat to anything. What IS a huge threat is the massive over-reaction the various governments are engaged in which WILL cause insane logistical bottlenecks and disrupt the market and availability of necessary goods through sheer centrally-planned incompetency. The market is SOOOO powerful when left alone that even IF the climate where fluctuation crazily, we would be fine.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The changing climate (which isn't changing nearly as much as everybody seems to think) isn't a threat to anything.

It's absolutely a threat to food prices, farmers, and border security.

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– yamez 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Government intervention and incompetence is what is threatening those things. If the assholes up top would stop fucking with the farmers, we wouldn't need to worry about the food supply at all.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Only to a degree. People need food all the time, but you have to grow it long in advance. As supply dwindles from certain areas, demand will absolutely spike, but no new supply will be able to be made until the following year. Additionally, farmers who can't buy different land and move equipment (again, even more massive capital investment) will just add more and more chemicals and fertilizer to try and cope with worsening soil and weather conditions which will cause bigger problems for the local environment.

Now, it's true that the global food supply won't crash or anything, but I'm talking about protecting our farmers.

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– yamez 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What you fail to understand is that things like the Wheat Board (Canada), various supply subsidies (America--paying farmers not to farm) and so on are what cause underproduction in the first place.

Not to mention Soil quality and Weather Conditions are not worse now than they have been historically. The weather in the 30's was horrible beyond belief in comparison to the droughts seen in the northern hemisphere right now. The dust bowl was a direct result of a HUGE drought that completely flattened the prairie states ability to farm. We haven't had anything nearly as bad since and likely won't. If global temperatures increase, it will open up land in Canada, Russia and Scandanivia (as well as Greenland, interestingly enough) that haven't been farmed since the medieval warm period, a period of very very warm temperatures that lasted a few hundred years.

Furthermore, farmers don't just throw chemicals at the soil to make it produce. They are actually highly educated tradesmen who engage in a number of ameliorative practices that include the use of silage, animal wastes, turning, fallowing, and so on--all of which are traditional techniques--in order to maintain the quality of their soil. Especially because rising fuel prices (a government caused problem) have made the use of chemical intermediaries prohibitive. Of course, certain governments don't want Farmers to use animals wastes either, for some reason, because I guess Shit and Piss are bad for the environment now too.

The food supply is not under threat from the climate. Farmers have farmed all the way through huge disruptions before and know how to manage their crops quite well even under fluctuating temperatures. When it's hot--grow grains and squashes. When it's cool, grow legumes a silage. Corn in all weather, lettuce and greens when it's wet. Animal feed and meats depend on a wide array of silage which are independent of our own food needs but end up as food themselves.

The only thing that will stop the Farmers from doing good work is bureaucratic intervention. I grew up with Farmers, they know their business.

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