I'm not American and what these... people... understand by "pro choice" is absolutely nuts to me, never mind the fact that abortion is not a right. I remember that at least in the past, the debate was somewhat more polite, I guess, and with less foaming at the mouth, but these latest generations of lunatics are making any kind of discussion almost impossible, especially since they use that deceiving opening "we just want to start a conversation" while wanting nothing of the sort.

I would consider myself 'pro choice' but hearing/seeing these nut-jobs advocate for late-term or even mid-term abortions, outside of there being a risk of the mother dying, is absolutely nuts to me. As I see it, they should have at most 8 weeks to decide if they don't want the baby. If 8 weeks go by, fetal development begins and they're having the baby, no more choice. They shouldn't even reach that stage anyway, there's all kinds of options to avoid getting pregnant.