So in your mind, It is impossible to grow beans/corn/wheat etc. in an area where lush jungles and plants of every other kind seem to thrive?
Oh my god, jesus fucking christ.
You can't grow Kentucky Bluegrass in fucking jungles because of different soils, climate, water levels, soil biology, humidity, acidity/basity, and fucking heat. That doesn't even include the rest of the biology like native insects, bacteria, and fauna.
You literally don't know anything about plants let alone farming.
All these noble Kangs in Africa are just fate-stricken to live in the one lush, warm, wet area of the world where coincidentally NOTHING will grow. Except of course, All of the lush jungles, trees, plants etc.
You can't eat jungle trees you idiot.
Large human civilizations benefit from large, open prairie, high protein, high carbohydrate, cash crops to succeed.
I genuinely don't know how to communicate with someone as legit retarded as you.
If you had even a rudimentary knowledge of plants or weather, you might become smart enough to talk about the subject that you think proves your point.
JFC, this is as bad as that one idiot who thought that everyone who died in the Holocaust died in just Auschwitz. How are you all this fucking ignorant about shit your supposed to hate?
I admit that the ignorance drives me fucking crazy. It's like telling me that going to the moon is easy because, "so what if it's a few thousand miles away. I could fly that distance on plane."
Listen to what you are saying: "rocky wooded areas". You can't cultivate most flowers (like daisies) in a heavily wooded areas. You have to clear the trees, stumps and all. You can't use mass farming in rocky areas, you have to clear the rocks so you can do repetitive work to farm large areas.
So no, you can't farm wheat in rocky, wooded, areas. It's a grass.
You have to modify the terrain to do that, and that alone is a huge task.
Then we need to talk about weather. You need regular rain, and in the correct amounts. You need to avoid sudden frosts. ... As soon as I typed that I had to run outside and rescue my Elephant Ear plant because it was sitting outside getting sunlight today, but it's a tropical plant, and I live in a temperate environment. I had to rush outside and rescue it from the cold night air, and bring it inside to a heated environment where it won't freeze, or it will absolutely die. And by freeze, I mean get relatively chilly because it can't survive 40 F weather. Alternatively, if weather gets too hot, and plants aren't well adapted to survive particularly dry heat, they will also die, roots and all.
Then we have to talk about the soil conditions themselves. I live on straight up fucking clay. It holds tons of nutrients, and drains water slowly, that's normally good, but it the clay gets too dry, it ... well... behaves like dried clay. It becomes absolutely rock hard, and only very sturdy plants can even grow or engage in a nitrogen exchange in such a harsh soil. Either physically strong plants, or plants with deep roots will do well in a clay soil. A much softer soil is better for growing for most plants. Typically, soft, black, nitrogenated soil that you might buy in a store is much more preferable, otherwise, you have to not just plant the plants, but configure how you are going to maintain the soil.
Then there's the bacteria, fauna, insects, and other such creatures that live above, or within that soil. Some bacteria might not be hospitable to certain plants. Some insects may colonize on some plants and make them otherwise inedible (like my fucking black berries and fucking flies), or other creatures will consume them for food (like my black berries and fucking squirrels; or like squirrels, deer, birds, mice and anything that moves and my sunflowers; or deer and entire god damned trees! Those aren't scratching posts you bastards!)
Anyways, now that we've got the basics, let's go with all the problems that Sub-Saharan Africa is going to deal with:
Instead of regular rains, they have irregular rains.
Instead of long periods of steady temperate weather, they have long periods of drought and blistering heat, or in jungles they have incessant humidity, constant rain, and perpetual heat)
Not just fauna that will want to eat the sparse food supply, but fucking mega fauna that will fight you for it.
Insects that can infest not only the plants, but any work animals you have, and kill them too.
Insects that are carrying Malaria and will kill you if there is stagnant water nearby
Soil ecology that is typically quite poor and low in nutrients
Geographic isolation for thousands of years prior.
Wheat, Barley, and Rye are in their element growing in Europe (and what used to be the fertile crescent). When they came to America, once the settlers cleared enough forests, they exploded in growth due to ultra-rich soil that was very similar to Europe, and had even more reliable rains, waterways, and good weather.
But to grow these things in Africa, took what is called "The Green Revolution", a period of technological innovation where chemical fertilizers and pesticides massively improved crop yields.
It wasn't just white farmers that were useful in central Africa, it was the machines, technology, and chemicals that came with them. They didn't have to rely on unfertilized African soil, they could do it themselves. They didn't have to rely on unreliable African rains, they could do it themselves. They didn't have to hope insects wouldn't destroy crops, they could spray pesticides. They didn't have to rely on only occasionally navigable waterways for goods, they built roads and railways. They didn't have to hope that they wouldn't die of Malaria, they got medicines to protect themselves, which meant more hours worked, and more land tilled. They didn't have to rely on farm animals that might get affected by Tsetse flies, they could just use tractors.
The Green Revolution is what I would call a mild form of terraforming for Africa. And it had to be terraformed a bit for cash crops to grow reliably. They weren't a native species and were going to fucked up by domestic diseases and fauna, just like the Europeans were. It's not just that white farmers in Africa where just white and understood farming, it's that productive farming in Africa is an arduous process that requires a very high level of skill in farming in and of itself. They are experts at farming, and they have the technology, skill, and cash to do it right; where most of the locals simply don't because it's not really possible for them to do it in a simple manner. Just like I failed to keep my Bleeding Hearts alive because my soil wasn't well drained enough, and the soil where I planted them was of too poor condition to keep the roots alive in the fall. I didn't know that, so they did well for 6 months, and then couldn't hold on.
I know that was meandering, but I hope you got at least a better impression about why these crops have a hard time in Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa just kind of sucks.
You don't even comprehend what you are doing here So I will say it again.
I understand what you are saying. You are just objectively wrong because you don't know anything about history or Africa, and are relying on (at best) racist memes. You don't even have the foundations of an argument.
Africans not understanding agriculture
Africans have had Agriculture for literally thousands of years. You are ignorant of history. That's the problem here. As a reminder, the Nile Delta is in Africa, and is one of the first places in human civilization to have Agriculture.
does not mean that Africa is a difficult place to farm.
Africa is not a difficult place to farm because black Africans couldn't farm it. It's because farming in Sub-Saharan Africa is difficult due to worse soil, worse geography, worse weather, worse climate, worse insects, worse diseases, worse fauna. This is why white farmers needed to use technology to compensate for the problems that sub-saharan Africa brings.
This is as stupid as saying "Eskimos are intellectually inferior because they never learned how to farm on ice"
For crying out loud man, Do you not comprehend that prior to John Deere tractors and round up pesticide, US agriculture THRIVED off of simple slave labor. You imply that disease and insects and drought don't exist in the US.
In America. Most of which is optimal for growing large crop yields.
You mention later something about hilarious bias... consider how hilarious it is that most plantations were using black slaves as expert farmers; and that is your argument for why blacks can't farm.
You genuinely don't know anything about what you are talking about.
You compare basic agriculture, Something that Europe figured out 9000 years ago, To space travel.
I'm giving you an analogy that shows the depth of your ignorance. You are so fundamentally uninformed about agriculture and Africa in general that you are making nonsensical excuses.
Your ignorance of African agricultural difficulties is as blatant as saying that the moon is a few thousand miles away and shouldn't be hard to get to.
It is a demonstration of your ignorance of the topic at hand.
Oh my god, jesus fucking christ.
You can't grow Kentucky Bluegrass in fucking jungles because of different soils, climate, water levels, soil biology, humidity, acidity/basity, and fucking heat. That doesn't even include the rest of the biology like native insects, bacteria, and fauna.
You literally don't know anything about plants let alone farming.
You can't eat jungle trees you idiot.
Large human civilizations benefit from large, open prairie, high protein, high carbohydrate, cash crops to succeed.
If you had even a rudimentary knowledge of plants or weather, you might become smart enough to talk about the subject that you think proves your point.
JFC, this is as bad as that one idiot who thought that everyone who died in the Holocaust died in just Auschwitz. How are you all this fucking ignorant about shit your supposed to hate?
I admit that the ignorance drives me fucking crazy. It's like telling me that going to the moon is easy because, "so what if it's a few thousand miles away. I could fly that distance on plane."
Listen to what you are saying: "rocky wooded areas". You can't cultivate most flowers (like daisies) in a heavily wooded areas. You have to clear the trees, stumps and all. You can't use mass farming in rocky areas, you have to clear the rocks so you can do repetitive work to farm large areas.
So no, you can't farm wheat in rocky, wooded, areas. It's a grass.
You have to modify the terrain to do that, and that alone is a huge task.
Then we need to talk about weather. You need regular rain, and in the correct amounts. You need to avoid sudden frosts. ... As soon as I typed that I had to run outside and rescue my Elephant Ear plant because it was sitting outside getting sunlight today, but it's a tropical plant, and I live in a temperate environment. I had to rush outside and rescue it from the cold night air, and bring it inside to a heated environment where it won't freeze, or it will absolutely die. And by freeze, I mean get relatively chilly because it can't survive 40 F weather. Alternatively, if weather gets too hot, and plants aren't well adapted to survive particularly dry heat, they will also die, roots and all.
Then we have to talk about the soil conditions themselves. I live on straight up fucking clay. It holds tons of nutrients, and drains water slowly, that's normally good, but it the clay gets too dry, it ... well... behaves like dried clay. It becomes absolutely rock hard, and only very sturdy plants can even grow or engage in a nitrogen exchange in such a harsh soil. Either physically strong plants, or plants with deep roots will do well in a clay soil. A much softer soil is better for growing for most plants. Typically, soft, black, nitrogenated soil that you might buy in a store is much more preferable, otherwise, you have to not just plant the plants, but configure how you are going to maintain the soil.
Then there's the bacteria, fauna, insects, and other such creatures that live above, or within that soil. Some bacteria might not be hospitable to certain plants. Some insects may colonize on some plants and make them otherwise inedible (like my fucking black berries and fucking flies), or other creatures will consume them for food (like my black berries and fucking squirrels; or like squirrels, deer, birds, mice and anything that moves and my sunflowers; or deer and entire god damned trees! Those aren't scratching posts you bastards!)
Anyways, now that we've got the basics, let's go with all the problems that Sub-Saharan Africa is going to deal with:
Wheat, Barley, and Rye are in their element growing in Europe (and what used to be the fertile crescent). When they came to America, once the settlers cleared enough forests, they exploded in growth due to ultra-rich soil that was very similar to Europe, and had even more reliable rains, waterways, and good weather.
But to grow these things in Africa, took what is called "The Green Revolution", a period of technological innovation where chemical fertilizers and pesticides massively improved crop yields.
It wasn't just white farmers that were useful in central Africa, it was the machines, technology, and chemicals that came with them. They didn't have to rely on unfertilized African soil, they could do it themselves. They didn't have to rely on unreliable African rains, they could do it themselves. They didn't have to hope insects wouldn't destroy crops, they could spray pesticides. They didn't have to rely on only occasionally navigable waterways for goods, they built roads and railways. They didn't have to hope that they wouldn't die of Malaria, they got medicines to protect themselves, which meant more hours worked, and more land tilled. They didn't have to rely on farm animals that might get affected by Tsetse flies, they could just use tractors.
The Green Revolution is what I would call a mild form of terraforming for Africa. And it had to be terraformed a bit for cash crops to grow reliably. They weren't a native species and were going to fucked up by domestic diseases and fauna, just like the Europeans were. It's not just that white farmers in Africa where just white and understood farming, it's that productive farming in Africa is an arduous process that requires a very high level of skill in farming in and of itself. They are experts at farming, and they have the technology, skill, and cash to do it right; where most of the locals simply don't because it's not really possible for them to do it in a simple manner. Just like I failed to keep my Bleeding Hearts alive because my soil wasn't well drained enough, and the soil where I planted them was of too poor condition to keep the roots alive in the fall. I didn't know that, so they did well for 6 months, and then couldn't hold on.
I know that was meandering, but I hope you got at least a better impression about why these crops have a hard time in Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa just kind of sucks.
I understand what you are saying. You are just objectively wrong because you don't know anything about history or Africa, and are relying on (at best) racist memes. You don't even have the foundations of an argument.
Africans have had Agriculture for literally thousands of years. You are ignorant of history. That's the problem here. As a reminder, the Nile Delta is in Africa, and is one of the first places in human civilization to have Agriculture.
Africa is not a difficult place to farm because black Africans couldn't farm it. It's because farming in Sub-Saharan Africa is difficult due to worse soil, worse geography, worse weather, worse climate, worse insects, worse diseases, worse fauna. This is why white farmers needed to use technology to compensate for the problems that sub-saharan Africa brings.
This is as stupid as saying "Eskimos are intellectually inferior because they never learned how to farm on ice"
In America. Most of which is optimal for growing large crop yields.
You mention later something about hilarious bias... consider how hilarious it is that most plantations were using black slaves as expert farmers; and that is your argument for why blacks can't farm.
You genuinely don't know anything about what you are talking about.
I'm giving you an analogy that shows the depth of your ignorance. You are so fundamentally uninformed about agriculture and Africa in general that you are making nonsensical excuses.
Your ignorance of African agricultural difficulties is as blatant as saying that the moon is a few thousand miles away and shouldn't be hard to get to.
It is a demonstration of your ignorance of the topic at hand.