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The field of intelligence research has witnessed more controversies than perhaps any other area of social science. Scholars working in this field...have found themselves denounced, defamed, protested, punched, stalked, spat on, censored, fired from their jobs and stripped of their honorary titles (www.gwern.net)
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– Gizortnik 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

You're talking about something completely different.

I'm telling you that there is an expected decrease in children and it's directly related to lockdowns and masks which has caused the children to become emotionally stunted.

What you're talking about is a general IQ statistic for a country.

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– SuspendBeforeYouBan 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

You didn't specify the kids and kid IQ ratings are notorious for fluctuating. We'll see the true impacts in a decade. It's still early to draw conclusions.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

A fair enough criticism to be sure, but that still leaves violence and malnutrition which are more well documented.

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– SuspendBeforeYouBan 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Violence itself is a natural trait also. So it's one of those "violence may cause it but genetics cause the violence that causes it". Malnutrition is going to have a factor of course because then people genetics can't properly develop. I think a lot of the modern research on this though is not done fairly. Example: A country like Canada only really has black people because Canada immigrated in black people. Canada has standards for black people that immigrate in this Canada will only accept on average higher IQ blacks as part of its normal immigration process. To then compare Canadian blacks as well-nourished and then compare them to blacks back in their home country who are malnourished is going to give a highly biased result. Of course the Canadian blacks have higher IQ because they were filtered out specifically for their higher IQ as part of the immigration process.

If you take black people in the same country who are well-nourished vs. those who are not, you're again creating a bias because generally speaking the people with better genetics are going to end up getting more nourishment as a factor of their better genetics. Better genetics leading to them being more capable to get into position where they can get more resources and being born to families of superior genetics that have more resources etc...

To truly do an unbiased study, you need to essentially find a village that split into two randomly. The one village go good nourishment and the other village did not. Then compare IQs but that's not how a lot of the studies on nourishment are done. The way in which the studies are done, often lead to a lot of biases in them. However since nourishment advocates the "environment" angle, despite the flaws, it is pushed heavily by many in the field.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Violence itself is a natural trait also. So it's one of those "violence may cause it but genetics cause the violence that causes it".

That's true for most of genetic relation to behaviors. It's never all nature or all nurture. There's always both, that's how humans adapt.

And that goes to my primary issue regarding emphasis on racial or ethnic "genetics". Race has almost nothing to do with it. IQ is malleable over populations both up and down, and a huge portion of that is culture and sex-selection based. A lot of racial science argues this absolute hard & fast rule that there are just entire ethnicities and races that are all but incapable of forming any semblance of human civilization because they are too cognitively impaired as a race to improve. But this isn't based on reality in the slightest.

To truly do an unbiased study, you need to essentially find a village that split into two randomly.

A study was done on that with East / West Germany. The East had more paranoia, starvation, and violence, and as an average was 1 standard deviation lower than the West Germans. Given the length of East Germany, the sudden drop in IQ in only a couple generations confirms to me that the effect of environment is very important factor.

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