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– KL767 14 points 2 years ago +15 / -1

They killed JFK (and killed Micahel Collins Piper for showing it was Mossad), it's upsetting when it hits you how bad things are. I don't know how to help those around me. Everyone is conditioned not to look into these boxes.

If they can't figure out 9/11 by now, it's just become a hopeless situation.

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– Gizortnik -4 points 2 years ago +5 / -9

JFK was absolutely shot by Lee Harvey Oswald, and the ballistics are one of the most important reasons why. Also, in his attempt to flee, he murdered a cop, and tried to shoot the officers who arrested him in the theater.

As for 9/11, if you can't figure out that the people in Al Qaeda who admitted doing it, practiced doing it, were funded to do it, and were part of a larger plan that had been known about almost years ahead of time, were the ones that did it. I really don't know what to tell you.

It's not thermite, buddy.

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– 5Cats 12 points 2 years ago +13 / -1

Perhaps Oswald shot at JFK, but how did he get down those stairs so fast (after wiping all his fingerprints off the rifle and stashing it away) and not even be breathing hard? Standing by a payphone as if awaiting a call?
EDIT: He was first seen drinking a coke in the cafeteria, a cop ran in and found him standing beside a payphone, later one presumes.

2 witnesses (both Black) said Oswald was talking to a man in a trench coat when the police rolled up on them, and that the trench coat man ran off after the shooting. They didn't actually see the shot, iirc.
I know he punched the first officer in the face, but don't recall him being armed (he'd dropped 'his pistol' at the policeman's shooting). Might be mistaken on that.
EDIT: He dropped the 4 shell casings from his revolver, and left substantial other evidence behind at the scene as well. He did have the pistol in the theater, but didn't shoot anyone there.

The whole JFK fiasco will likely never be resolved, since they re-classified all the evidence for another 50 (iirc) years.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

Perhaps Oswald shot at JFK, but how did he get down those stairs so fast (after wiping all his fingerprints off the rifle and stashing it away) and not even be breathing hard? Standing by a payphone as if awaiting a call?

I'm not sure I agree with any of those claims, but lets treat them at face value. I've literally descended several flights of stairs in a hurry and controlled my breathing and movement quite easily, because I also watched the JFK film from the 90's and have occasionally tested that. It's pretty easy to disguise your movements or distress if you've practiced it a few times.

2 witnesses (both Black) said Oswald was talking to a man in a trench coat when the police rolled up on them, and that the trench coat man ran off after the shooting. They didn't actually see the shot, iirc.

In the theater? That's when the police actually approached him. He had a gun on him at the time.

I know he punched the first officer in the face, but don't recall him being armed (he'd dropped 'his pistol' at the policeman's shooting). Might be mistaken on that.

Well, considering the cop was shot to death, he probably did a bit more than that.

As I recall, Oswald was being pursued, not for murdering JFK, but for the officer's shooting, because that was who witnesses originally identified.

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– 5Cats 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

No, when he shot the police officer on the street. JD Tippet, just 40 minutes after JFK was shot. He didn't shoot anyone in the theater, afaik.
He seems to have dropped the shell casings at that scene, so he did have his pistol at the theater? But he never shot anyone there.
There's also speculation that Oswald was inside the theater already when Tippet was shot... or arrived there minutes later when it was a long walk away :/
really long article, full of questionable stuff they explore ALL the possible theories regarding Tippet's shooting.
Best take-aways:

Tippet was shot 4 times with 2 kinds of bullets (both could be from the same revolver though ) and Oswald took the time to remove them and leave them at the scene, along with other identifying materials.
Oswald had 2 dollar bills that had been ripped in half. He only had half of each. A common way to identify a contact, yes? They have the other half, it's impossible to fake it.
eyewitness testimonies were all over the place, but 2 did say there were 2 men present when Tippet was shot.

Also: the Dallas police force received (iirc) 300+ 'tips' on Oswald's location, but for the tips from a shoemaker and a theater worker they sent a LOT of men to a single theater. This would support the idea that Oswald was trying to contact his 'handler' as theaters were VERY often used as contact points back then. Possibly still are?
Iirc they had leaflets out with Oswald's picture on them & distributed within ~~an hour?~~ in under 30 minutes. Rather remarkable since there were no Kinkos back then.

I could be mistaken, but the endless parade of "questionable facts" in the Official Story are just too much to overlook. That and the history of all governments to lie to their own people with impunity.
Anyhow, it's always interesting to discuss and research the subject. I learned a bunch just now :>

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