I understand that what Tucker Carlson is saying, but he is a bit wrong in most of what he is saying in regards to Ukraine or somewhat defending Russia. Like a broken clock is right twice a day, sometimes a good clock can get something wrong.
What Russia is doing is the same exact thing it has done prior and during WWII and in the cold war. The Finnish know it, all the eastern European countries know it. They have experienced genocide at the hands of Russians in the past. In summary, what Russia is doing now is not really out character for them, and it is very much expected.
I have said in the past, more than a decade ago , that Russia is not a very good guy. Holodomor is the biggest example.
What Russia is doing is the same exact thing it has done prior and during WWII and in the cold war.
I don't think that's a fair comment. This situation is not as simple as the media makes it out to be. It's many shades of gray rather than black and white.
I made a post as an attempt at explaining that, while we were all panicking over a glorified flu from a woman's laboratory, Ukraine was signing shady deals to try and backdoor into NATO.
We also know Ukraine are hiding weapons under civilian areas in the hope Russia will hit them, because they just arrested someone for sharing that information.
We know Zelensky has banned all opposition parties and now has the "unified media" that answers directly to him like a wannabe Hitler.
There's a lot about Ukraine that doesn't fit in the little narrative that's being pushed.
Russia has done the banning of media and control most of them for years. Ukraine for the most part, banning the other political parties is very understandable as they in war with a country some of those parties liked or tangiall supported. I would even support and understand if America was invaded by China and the Republicans banned the democrats.
Russia has not changed a single bit. Even their tactics, albeit modernized a bit, still reflect their pre wwii mentality. Where they don't value human life. They have little to no rescue, little to no desire to recover their dead or injured, they have also shown no desire to protect civilians for the most part. Their soldiers are all very expendable. Their lives are cheap. You can see on their lack of training, low morale, bad to horrendous supply chain, to low communications(they even had to use people's cellphone to send orders to their soldiers back during Georgia's invasion).
Defending Russia is akin to what I have been saying before, to jump a cliff while the ctrl-left decides not to jump.
The msm is not our friend and we shouldn't trust them, but one should trust FAR Less the media coming from Russia, as almost all of them are government controlled and propaganda. Plus, no protests, you can't even say that this invasion is a war. And any journalist out of line or a person steps out of what the Kremlin says they are jailed and! Or fined.
jester is literally reading nationalist propoganda while he tells us that russia is evil and not to trust media .
he sounds exactly as id expect a brainwashed shitlib who consumes 99% cnn/msnby/etc for his opinions and news
considering his stance on calling everone he disagrees with stormcucks, i find it mightly hilarious just how quickly he sided with an actual nationalist nazi militia. the irony could power space x for a year, lmao
hes okay with shitliblensky banning other political parties... he's just one xir short of being a complete shitlib.
little to no desire to recover their dead or injured
Because Ukrainians will gladly take such a cheap shot. Their entire tactic in this war has been cheap shots.
They have also shown no desire to protect civilians for the most part
Neither has Ukraine, they've been stashing weapons in residential areas and they've been hiding behind children to try and slow down Russian advances. (something that was particularly common in Mariupol, to the point that Russian troops immediately shot upwards into the floor above once they encountered children, because the Ukrainian army were always trying to ambush them from the next floor while they moved the children out of the building)
The msm is not our friend and we shouldn't trust them, but one should trust FAR Less the media coming from Russia, as almost all of them are government controlled and propaganda.
Your mistake is believing that the US media isn't also government controlled. They literally worked with the government to "verify" the Steele dossier.
You can say Russia is bad, I don't disagree. Bachelor taxes are coming when the war is over, a real slap in the face to all the men who fought.
The problem I have is that support for Ukraine is universal among my enemy, and just from that I know they are guilty of great evil, which maybe the true extent of which hasn't been revealed yet.
Because Ukrainians will gladly take such a cheap shot. Their entire tactic in this war has been cheap shots.
This did not stop NATO, America or any other western country in the past in recovering their wounded or lost behind enemy lines. In Vietnam America had the "Sandy". And They still do to this very day try to recover them. This is a major moral boost to the troops and pilots. They know that if they get shot down, and avoid capture by the enemy that they will be rescued.
Neither has Ukraine, they've been stashing weapons in residential areas and they've been hiding behind children to try and slow down Russian advances.
into the floor above once they encountered children
Is this the one where the Chechens were firing at the building?
Your mistake is believing that the US media isn't also government controlled.
For the most part, it isn't. America has Daily Wire, Daily Caller, Blaze, Fox, Newsmax, OAN, and others. What does Russia have? 99% is state controlled.
The problem I have is that support for Ukraine is universal among my enemy,
And this is what I have been saying here all the time. Just because the person you hate, your enemy chose not to go down that particular road does not mean, by obligation you have to take it.
Another example, if the person you hate chose not to jump down the cliff, does that mean you jump down the cliff?
No, it means you sit down, analyze the information and make a proper choice. Even if that choice aligns with your enemy. Because a broken clock is right twice a day. Just because it is broken, those particular times are going to be right. This is akin to that meme, Trump drinks water, and the NPC breaks down because he also drinks water. Or Hitler drank water, and the NPC drinks water too. So, does that mean, because your enemy drinks water, you have to stop drinking water?
You can check out this documentary, that got attacked in wikipedia for displaying the real facts of the soviets, communism and nazism. The stormcucks in kia2 are acting exactly like the nazis in 1939 and 1940, they are backing the soviets Russians. https://vimeo.com/69728873
if you want, I can try and find a better copy with subtitles so you can see the testimony of people who survived the Russian onslaught.
It is a mistake, a massive mistake to make excuses for Russia and siding with them because somebody you hate chose to stand with Ukraine.
The problem I have is that support for Ukraine is universal among my enemy, and just from that I know they are guilty of great evil
Well, Ukraine is truly guilty of great evil, it tried to get away from it's big abusive neighbour. Given your picture of the other side of Ukraine, it definitely qualifies in your worldview.
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banning the other political parties is very understandable
lol
I would even support and understand if the Republicans banned the democrats.
neocon detected.
they don't value human life
This is a totally utter lie. but youre a propoganda toad, so i am not at all surprised.
Defending Russia is akin to jumping off
i find it so ironic to see you standing with ukrainian nationalist neo nazis, i never thought you had it in you, jester
the ctrl-left decides not to
Lol, you are the control left now. in addition to being zelinskys 2nd ballsack.
The msm is not our friend and we shouldn't trust them
Where did you get your information from that "the ukrs are taking countless Z weapons/vehicles?" It wasnt any media outlets, it cant be, youre too smart to use those to backup your slaveukri faggot arguments.
And any journalist out of line or a person steps out of what the Kremlin says they are jailed and! Or fined.
But its okay when ur buddy zelencuck does it. youre a raging shitliberal, and its taken this almost war to reveal it.
This is a totally utter lie. but youre a propoganda toad, so i am not at all surprised.
Order number 227 and 270.
Have fun.
i find it so ironic to see you standing with ukrainian nationalist neo nazis, i never thought you had it in you, jester
Funny, coming from a guy who worships Chechens. Hey, two can play this game. I know you do not, but since you are lumping my support with Ukraine over a group of soldiers who doesn't even make 10% of the army, I will do the same to you. https://archive.ph/aVR4r
Where did you get your information from that "the ukrs are taking countless Z weapons/vehicles?" It wasnt any media outlets, it cant be, youre too smart to use those to backup your slaveukri faggot arguments.
I do wonder what they think I said here is considered "falsehood". Or someone got so triggered over me that they went on a reporting spree to see what sticks to get me silenced and banned.
I understand that what Tucker Carlson is saying, but he is a bit wrong in most of what he is saying in regards to Ukraine or somewhat defending Russia. Like a broken clock is right twice a day, sometimes a good clock can get something wrong.
What Russia is doing is the same exact thing it has done prior and during WWII and in the cold war. The Finnish know it, all the eastern European countries know it. They have experienced genocide at the hands of Russians in the past. In summary, what Russia is doing now is not really out character for them, and it is very much expected.
I have said in the past, more than a decade ago , that Russia is not a very good guy. Holodomor is the biggest example.
I don't think that's a fair comment. This situation is not as simple as the media makes it out to be. It's many shades of gray rather than black and white.
I made a post as an attempt at explaining that, while we were all panicking over a glorified flu from a woman's laboratory, Ukraine was signing shady deals to try and backdoor into NATO.
We also know Ukraine are hiding weapons under civilian areas in the hope Russia will hit them, because they just arrested someone for sharing that information.
We know Zelensky has banned all opposition parties and now has the "unified media" that answers directly to him like a wannabe Hitler.
There's a lot about Ukraine that doesn't fit in the little narrative that's being pushed.
spot on, thx for arguing with (zelenskys sex change) doctor, tired of his propoganda and retardation.
Russia has done the banning of media and control most of them for years. Ukraine for the most part, banning the other political parties is very understandable as they in war with a country some of those parties liked or tangiall supported. I would even support and understand if America was invaded by China and the Republicans banned the democrats.
Russia has not changed a single bit. Even their tactics, albeit modernized a bit, still reflect their pre wwii mentality. Where they don't value human life. They have little to no rescue, little to no desire to recover their dead or injured, they have also shown no desire to protect civilians for the most part. Their soldiers are all very expendable. Their lives are cheap. You can see on their lack of training, low morale, bad to horrendous supply chain, to low communications(they even had to use people's cellphone to send orders to their soldiers back during Georgia's invasion).
Defending Russia is akin to what I have been saying before, to jump a cliff while the ctrl-left decides not to jump.
The msm is not our friend and we shouldn't trust them, but one should trust FAR Less the media coming from Russia, as almost all of them are government controlled and propaganda. Plus, no protests, you can't even say that this invasion is a war. And any journalist out of line or a person steps out of what the Kremlin says they are jailed and! Or fined.
This is objectively false. Russia has the capability to level every major Ukrainian city in less than a week. They have chosen not to do so.
jester is literally reading nationalist propoganda while he tells us that russia is evil and not to trust media .
he sounds exactly as id expect a brainwashed shitlib who consumes 99% cnn/msnby/etc for his opinions and news
considering his stance on calling everone he disagrees with stormcucks, i find it mightly hilarious just how quickly he sided with an actual nationalist nazi militia. the irony could power space x for a year, lmao
They did.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/russian-state-tv-airs-shocking-aerial-footage-of-completely-destroyed-mariupol-host-blames-ukrainians-for-destruction/
Because Ukrainians will gladly take such a cheap shot. Their entire tactic in this war has been cheap shots.
Neither has Ukraine, they've been stashing weapons in residential areas and they've been hiding behind children to try and slow down Russian advances. (something that was particularly common in Mariupol, to the point that Russian troops immediately shot upwards into the floor above once they encountered children, because the Ukrainian army were always trying to ambush them from the next floor while they moved the children out of the building)
Your mistake is believing that the US media isn't also government controlled. They literally worked with the government to "verify" the Steele dossier.
You can say Russia is bad, I don't disagree. Bachelor taxes are coming when the war is over, a real slap in the face to all the men who fought.
The problem I have is that support for Ukraine is universal among my enemy, and just from that I know they are guilty of great evil, which maybe the true extent of which hasn't been revealed yet.
This did not stop NATO, America or any other western country in the past in recovering their wounded or lost behind enemy lines. In Vietnam America had the "Sandy". And They still do to this very day try to recover them. This is a major moral boost to the troops and pilots. They know that if they get shot down, and avoid capture by the enemy that they will be rescued.
It doesn't make sense, considering a lot of the Ukrainians are normal people too. Especially that this tactic doesn't work for Russians. It would have worked for NATO and Israel for the most part(Biden bombing innocents at Afghanistan withdrawal, and Trump avoiding the bombing of innocents and calling off the attack. Israel calling and releasing leaflets to warn people). But not with Russia. If they do not care about their soldiers, their conscripts(they never did), they will care even less about people around them. If we used this logic, then Ukraine has more weapons than all countries combined to hide in all these civilian buildings: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/russian-state-tv-airs-shocking-aerial-footage-of-completely-destroyed-mariupol-host-blames-ukrainians-for-destruction/ and https://www.manilatimes.net/manilatimes/uploads/images/2022/03/23/57383.jpg
Is this the one where the Chechens were firing at the building?
For the most part, it isn't. America has Daily Wire, Daily Caller, Blaze, Fox, Newsmax, OAN, and others. What does Russia have? 99% is state controlled.
And this is what I have been saying here all the time. Just because the person you hate, your enemy chose not to go down that particular road does not mean, by obligation you have to take it.
Another example, if the person you hate chose not to jump down the cliff, does that mean you jump down the cliff?
No, it means you sit down, analyze the information and make a proper choice. Even if that choice aligns with your enemy. Because a broken clock is right twice a day. Just because it is broken, those particular times are going to be right. This is akin to that meme, Trump drinks water, and the NPC breaks down because he also drinks water. Or Hitler drank water, and the NPC drinks water too. So, does that mean, because your enemy drinks water, you have to stop drinking water?
You can check out this documentary, that got attacked in wikipedia for displaying the real facts of the soviets, communism and nazism. The stormcucks in kia2 are acting exactly like the nazis in 1939 and 1940, they are backing the
sovietsRussians. https://vimeo.com/69728873if you want, I can try and find a better copy with subtitles so you can see the testimony of people who survived the Russian onslaught.
It is a mistake, a massive mistake to make excuses for Russia and siding with them because somebody you hate chose to stand with Ukraine.
Well, Ukraine is truly guilty of great evil, it tried to get away from it's big abusive neighbour. Given your picture of the other side of Ukraine, it definitely qualifies in your worldview.
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lol
neocon detected.
This is a totally utter lie. but youre a propoganda toad, so i am not at all surprised.
i find it so ironic to see you standing with ukrainian nationalist neo nazis, i never thought you had it in you, jester
Lol, you are the control left now. in addition to being zelinskys 2nd ballsack.
Where did you get your information from that "the ukrs are taking countless Z weapons/vehicles?" It wasnt any media outlets, it cant be, youre too smart to use those to backup your slaveukri faggot arguments.
But its okay when ur buddy zelencuck does it. youre a raging shitliberal, and its taken this almost war to reveal it.
Order number 227 and 270.
Have fun.
Funny, coming from a guy who worships Chechens. Hey, two can play this game. I know you do not, but since you are lumping my support with Ukraine over a group of soldiers who doesn't even make 10% of the army, I will do the same to you. https://archive.ph/aVR4r
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1507054286441754625
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44879/ukraine-just-captured-part-of-one-of-russias-most-capable-electronic-warfare-systems
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1506768742516154373
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1506754257042776066
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1506744628594233348
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1506706089064206336
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1506701046822936577
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1506688907869630471
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1506380954981515268
edit, came out 4 minutes ago, second tank of this type captured by ukrainians in this particular village: https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1507090134801469446
Edit 2: https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1507112791584485380
all these captures are from today or last couple of days.
EDIT 3: Master list of known captured and destroyed Russian vehicles.
Russia - 1794, of which: destroyed: 877, damaged: 34, abandoned: 228, captured: 655
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
My apologies, I forgot parts of Russia has been invaded.
They are sending inexperienced, poorly trained, peasants to fight for the Czar, there is nothing new here.
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I do wonder what they think I said here is considered "falsehood". Or someone got so triggered over me that they went on a reporting spree to see what sticks to get me silenced and banned.