Russia isn't even trying to push propaganda in any way comparative to Ukraine.

(X) Doubt.

I'm presuming you're using the term "liberal" as it comes to common use

Actually no I meant it in entirely the same same way that you use it. Obviously there is a long established cultural regime that goes beyond fake US politics.

it's worth saying that Fox News, Newsmax, and others are fully in line with it

I try not to follow MSM but I'm not THAT ignorant. (ok maybe Newsmax pretends not to be MSM but we all knew it was "controlled oppo") Thanks for reminding us anyway.