It is because you presupposed my arguments and went off on a complete tangent I wasn't even going to go in and had no interest in going into. You should try not to do that as it makes you seem incredibly pretentious. My belief is philosophical, not quantum or what have you. You have listed numerous ways we know its unable to be measured perfectly, which to me says it is in its own system of order beyond our comprehension.
You'll notice I didn't just list tech, but also distance as the limiter. Both in terms of big/small picture and the limitations of the human mind for how far away we are from even finding a starting thread. We will never have a proper fixed point with which to lever the universe, so most of its ordering will be beyond our feeble existences. An imperfect tool itself is both comprehending the universe and then attempting to measure it, which is one of the foundational paradoxes discussed in the Psychological Field.
Its ironic, that for your extreme pushing in this very conversation for internal loci of control you reject the very foundational belief that allows it, which is the delusional belief that all things can be linked back to your own actions instead of being complete chance.
I believe they only need that external loci because of their own internal weakness
The point you keep jumping over is humans are weak. You may be brick shithouse super brain, but most aren't and never will be. You can't learn them into it, you can't age them into it, you can do nothing to fix the fundamental flaws that have defined humanity for millenniums. Some people will heal their broken leg, some people will limp for the rest of their life and that crutch is in fact necessary for them to ever walk again.
It is because you presupposed my arguments and went off on a complete tangent I wasn't even going to go in and had no interest in going into. You should try not to do that as it makes you seem incredibly pretentious. My belief is philosophical, not quantum or what have you. You have listed numerous ways we know its unable to be measured perfectly, which to me says it is in its own system of order beyond our comprehension.
You'll notice I didn't just list tech, but also distance as the limiter. Both in terms of big/small picture and the limitations of the human mind for how far away we are from even finding a starting thread. We will never have a proper fixed point with which to lever the universe, so most of its ordering will be beyond our feeble existences. An imperfect tool itself is both comprehending the universe and then attempting to measure it, which is one of the foundational paradoxes discussed in the Psychological Field.
Its ironic, that for your extreme pushing in this very conversation for internal loci of control you reject the very foundational belief that allows it, which is the delusional belief that all things can be linked back to your own actions instead of being complete chance.
The point you keep jumping over is humans are weak. You may be brick shithouse super brain, but most aren't and never will be. You can't learn them into it, you can't age them into it, you can do nothing to fix the fundamental flaws that have defined humanity for millenniums. Some people will heal their broken leg, some people will limp for the rest of their life and that crutch is in fact necessary for them to ever walk again.