0.89% and 0.01% - hospitalization rate if you get covid without or with the vaccine

posted 3 years ago by GhostBond 3 years ago by GhostBond +63 / -2

0.89% - hospitalization rate if you get covid with no vaccine
0.01% - hospitalization rate if you get covid with the vaccine

50% - what democrat fanatics believe is your odds of needing hospitalization if you get covid

https://web.archive.org/web/20211115000335/https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bill-maher-covid-restrictions-coronavirus-pandemic-over

Maher went on to slam Democrats over a poll that showed "41%" of them believed unvaccinated people have "over 50%" risk of hospitalization when it's actually "0.89%," adding that it's "0.01%" for vaccinated people.

And some of these hospitalizations are for people who are unfortunately already dying of something else already:

But Maher pushed back on the lack of "consensus" on how many people have actually died from COVID, pointing to the recent passing of former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who Maher pointed out had cancer and Parkinson's disease but died of "complications from COVID."

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– fauxgnaws 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

risk of hospitalization when it's actually "0.89%," adding that it's "0.01%" for vaccinated people.

Even this is probably way off. This study of the VA shows much more reasonable numbers. It's from a single reliable dataset, is by actual scientists who controlled for many factors, and they use death as a good proxy for hospitalization.

A 90% reduction in infections going down to 10%-60% reduction after 6 months, and the net effect of this is you just get infected after 6 months and after that total infection just slightly lagging unvaccinated. So protection against infection is only temporary. Basically worthless for preventing infection.

For deaths it shows vaccinated with 1/5th deaths, which is decent although it's about equivalent reduction individually to taking Vitamin D, or Zinc, or melatonin, antiviral mouthwash (some of crest/total w/o alcohol), etc and is less reduction than early treatment with $4 fluvoxamine (although only 2 studies / 300 people so far). And hey why not more than one? Vitamins and mouthwash are almost certainly independent variables.

If the vaccine reduced death/severity by 50x like the fear-porn says, maybe that would be worth the risk. But if I can get the same reduction by gargling mouthwash as taking an experimental new biotechnology with no track record and seemingly large number of severe side effects, how is that even a choice? That's madness.