VAERS / vaccine analysis: 15 people killed for every 1 person saved - Kotaku In Action 2

VAERS / vaccine analysis: 15 people killed for every 1 person saved (stevekirsch.substack.com)

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– throwawayaccount2037 [S] 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

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The Pfizer 6 month trial showed the drug can save 1 life for every 22,000 people vaccinated. It also appeared from the trial that the drug killed more people than it saved (there were 20 deaths in the treatment group vs. 14 in placebo after unblinding). So we are “saving” fewer than 10,000 lives at the expense of over 150,000 deaths. In short, we kill 15 people to save 1. That’s incredibly stupid. But nobody in the Biden administration wants to meet with our team. They basically don’t want to hear the truth. Instead, they focus on deplatforming and censoring us which are techniques that are effective when the data doesn’t work out for yo

There is a pretty good chance that the vaccines don’t really work at all and never did. We know the Pfizer Phase 3 trials were gamed in many ways. There is no doubt that the vaccines elevate antibodies, but it seems that it is quite possible that the immunity they confer is actually the result of killing off (or excluding as in the case of the trials) people with weaker immune systems. The people who are left are thus more resistant to the virus.

That second quote is the really dagger in the heart of the narrative. Without uncontaminated longitudinal data we have no idea if even that one person (versus the 15 killed) is actually saved by the vaccines.

EDIT: Just remembered there was a study by Polish researchers who came to a similar conclusion and the study was promptly pulled from circulation: https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/7/693/htm

I've long said since the vaccines rolled out without proper Phase III and Phase IV testing that we don't know if the people who had lessened or no symptoms from COVID-19 that have been vaccinated could be suffering from the placebo effect.

Unfortunately Pfizer contaminated the data by giving the control group the jab: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/19/969143015/long-term-studies-of-covid-19-vaccines-hurt-by-placebo-recipients-getting-immuni

Anyway, Kirsch welcomed skeptics and pro-vaxxers to actually challenge and dig into the data to discuss how the numbers are inaccurate/wrong, but so far he's had no takers.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

So we are “saving” fewer than 10,000 lives at the expense of over 150,000 deaths

This doesn't pass the sniff test.

There have definitely not been anywhere close to 150,000 deaths to the vaccine.

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– throwawayaccount2037 [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

According to American Frontline Doctor's lawsuit they had estimated 45,000 deaths between December, 2020 and July, 2021: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/3c6a0774-cfad-46fa-aa97-af5aa5e74f00/M%20for%20PI%20file%20stamped.pdf

VAERS under-reports deaths caused by the Vaccines by a conservative factor of at least 5. As of July 9, 2021, VAERS reported 9,048 deaths associated with the Vaccines. Jane Doe queried data from CMS medical claims, and has determined that the number of deaths occurring with 3 days of injection with the Vaccines exceeds those reported by VAERS by a factor of at least 5, indicating that the true number of deaths caused by the Vaccines is at least 45,000. She notes that in the 1976 Swine Flu vaccine campaign (in which 25% of the U.S. population at that time, 55 million Americans, were vaccinated), the Swine Flu vaccine was deemed dangerous and unsafe, and removed from the market, even though the vaccine resulted in only 53 deaths.

It's not unreasonable to think that between July and November that the figures more than doubled as more people have been vaccinated. The VAERS submissions have only gone up by an astronomical degree.

If you have data that might prove or indicate otherwise, I would love to see it.

But the fact that the FDA, DOD, CDC, and WHO are prohibiting death/SAE-tracking of the vaccines, it's hard to get an official estimate when the health bodies are purposely suppressing the data.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If you have data that might prove or indicate otherwise, I would love to see it.

UK office of national statistics:

https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2021/10/04/how-many-people-have-died-as-a-result-of-a-covid-19-vaccine/

The Yellow Card reporting scheme has reported that between 9 December 2020 and 8 September 2021 there were 1,645 deaths where the person died shortly after receiving one of the coronavirus vaccines. This is the number of deaths reported as possibly linked to a vaccine, however they will not have been fully investigated at the time of reporting and a report is not proof of causation.

1,645 deaths in less than a year is still a shocking number to be linked to a vaccine, but it at least seems feasible.

If the vaccine was killing people at anything like the rate suggestd by your source, it wouldn't be deniable, especially since those most at risk seem to be young men in their teens and early-mid 20's.

Tens of thousands of families don't lose a son in the prime of his life without there being uproar. You can't keep the lid on something like that.

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– ItsOkayToBeWight 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That's 1645 UK citizens that died within roughly 1 day of the jab. It can take a week for the mRNA to diffuse from the muscle and into the bloodstream and longer for those protein printing instructions to hit peak output. That's when you get mysterious heart attacks and strokes. If you include these heart attacks and strokes, 150k US deaths doesn't seem unreasonable. That number may also be a projection assuming a higher adoption rate.

Overall the data is really hard to come by. And that this is the case should be super suspicious in and of itself.

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