VAERS / vaccine analysis: 15 people killed for every 1 person saved
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According to American Frontline Doctor's lawsuit they had estimated 45,000 deaths between December, 2020 and July, 2021: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/3c6a0774-cfad-46fa-aa97-af5aa5e74f00/M%20for%20PI%20file%20stamped.pdf
It's not unreasonable to think that between July and November that the figures more than doubled as more people have been vaccinated. The VAERS submissions have only gone up by an astronomical degree.
If you have data that might prove or indicate otherwise, I would love to see it.
But the fact that the FDA, DOD, CDC, and WHO are prohibiting death/SAE-tracking of the vaccines, it's hard to get an official estimate when the health bodies are purposely suppressing the data.
UK office of national statistics:
https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2021/10/04/how-many-people-have-died-as-a-result-of-a-covid-19-vaccine/
1,645 deaths in less than a year is still a shocking number to be linked to a vaccine, but it at least seems feasible.
If the vaccine was killing people at anything like the rate suggestd by your source, it wouldn't be deniable, especially since those most at risk seem to be young men in their teens and early-mid 20's.
Tens of thousands of families don't lose a son in the prime of his life without there being uproar. You can't keep the lid on something like that.
Did you actually read the report? It's the same as VAERS, based on self-reports, which means it's based on the information provided by the health authorities who signed off on the death certificate. Here is the relevant bit...
The usefulness of the Yellow Card Scheme is that anyone can report their symptoms and the information can be provided quickly as it is based on notifications, meaning that people can provide information on a possible side effect as soon as it occurs.
(Continued...) Doctors are required by law to certify the cause of death ‘to the best of their knowledge and belief’. [...] For the vaccine to be mentioned on the death certificate the medical professional certifying the death must have believed, to the best of their knowledge, that the vaccine was part of the events that led to the death.
This is the exact same problem we have with VAERS, where some doctors have self-reported and others have not. Even the source you linked states....
This is the number of deaths reported as possibly linked to a vaccine, however they will not have been fully investigated at the time of reporting and a report is not proof of causation. So, the numbers are likely to be a big overestimate.
This brings rise to all manner of questions regarding accuracy of the numbers. What about doctors who are -- in cases in the U.S., -- not reporting AEs, SAEs, and deaths associated with the vaccines? What about deaths caused by the vaccine that are masked as another morbidity (i.e., organ failure)?
The problem is that the data is completely unreliable and dirty, and doesn't appear to offer much in the way of being able to dig into the veracity of the reports.
That's a begging the question fallacy.
Why wouldn't it be deniable? And WHERE would you get the official reports of these deaths if they're being masked by health authorities and the media?
Uproar from where? Where would you hear about it? If you post about deaths/SAEs related to the vaccines and they gain traction on social media the accounts are suspended.
More than 120,000 people reported SAEs in a Facebook group and Facebook had the group banned: https://reclaimthenet.org/facebook-removes-covid-19-vaccine-victims-group/
So this goes back to the question: where would you report SAEs/deaths that wouldn't be censored by Big Tech/media?
And it doesn't bother you that the FDA, DOD, CDC, and WHO are purposely withholding and prohibiting the tracking of SAEs/death rates by independent bodies?
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Or are you now going to tell me that the families of the tens of thousands of dead young men and boys just aren't upset enough to bother reporting what killed their sons?
Anyone can report the symptoms but they're only counting the deaths based on what the doctors certify as vaccine-related deaths. It literally says it right here...
The deaths registrations figures published by ONS show the official figures for when a death involved the COVID-19 vaccination, and when the vaccination was the underlying cause. This means it was recorded as such by a doctor or coroner. There is a time lag, for the reasons described here, so the most recent data relate to deaths registered up to the end of August 2021. This time lag should be borne in mind when using these figures.
EDIT: There's also the issue that not everyone (who is not in the medical profession) will know that the cause of death was entirely vaccine related, especially when -- as I mentioned -- there is masking involved.
You aslo keep ignoring the most important part that I keep asking, though, WHY aren't you more concerned with the fact that the health authorities are suppressing the actual death rates and why aren't you more concerned that independent bodies aren't allowed to track national SAEs/death rates?
That's 1645 UK citizens that died within roughly 1 day of the jab. It can take a week for the mRNA to diffuse from the muscle and into the bloodstream and longer for those protein printing instructions to hit peak output. That's when you get mysterious heart attacks and strokes. If you include these heart attacks and strokes, 150k US deaths doesn't seem unreasonable. That number may also be a projection assuming a higher adoption rate.
Overall the data is really hard to come by. And that this is the case should be super suspicious in and of itself.