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Journalist Jeet Heer admits to hiding comments by Ruth Bader Ginsburg. (imgur.com)
posted 4 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 4 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +76 / -0
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– novanleon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

From what I can tell, from reading Greek and Roman sources, it seems that women's behavior 2,000 years ago was identical to women's behavior today. That makes sense, since men's behavior is also identical, because most human behavior is genetic, and 2,000 years isn't enough time to have significant evolution.

I'm not claiming different behavior; quite the opposite. I'm claiming that women's nature is being exploited to make them feel afraid and oppressed 100% of the time, which is why there is such exaggerated in-group preference. Again, back to the survival mechanism.

For another example, spend some time in a traditional Evangelical Christian or Amish/Mennonite community and you won't see this type of reflexive "women vs men" mentality from most women. They certainly don't "believe all women" or assume men are at fault in every disagreement. Granted, these are communities where gender roles are very traditional and women are expected to be subservient to their husbands. It's up to you whether you see this as the "default" state of female nature or whether you believe the more modern paranoid female nature is the "default".

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– Mystiker 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I'm claiming that women's nature is being exploited to make them feel afraid and oppressed 100% of the time, which is why there is such exaggerated in-group preference. Again, back to the survival mechanism.

In that case I agree.

Granted, these are communities where gender roles are very traditional and women are expected to be subservient to their husbands. It's up to you whether you see this as the "default" state of female nature or whether you believe the more modern paranoid female nature is the "default".

That's the crux of the issue, isn't it? I'm firmly in the "women require the patriarchy in order to behave properly" camp.

Not necessarily because they're women... but because all people need the patriarchy in order to behave properly.

Structure, authority, hierarchy, self-control, discipline, these are necessary qualities in society. When you lose that, you get narcissistic hedonistic women, and weak soyboy hedonistic men.

But I believe that women have less innate self-control than men, so they're hit even harder by the lack of patriarchy.

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