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Journalist Jeet Heer admits to hiding comments by Ruth Bader Ginsburg. (imgur.com)
posted 4 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 4 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +76 / -0
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– novanleon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

To be fair, everyone has some degree of in-group bias.

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– Mystiker 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

But statistically, women have 4.5 times more in-group bias than men. In fact, men have almost no in-group bias:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect

This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger than those of men. And only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem, revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic preference for their own gender.

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– novanleon 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Men do have in-group bias, it's just not based simply on gender, it's based on shared male experiences. Brothers in arms, gang members, men's clubs, sports teams, etc.

In-group bias is a survival instinct that increases the more dire the circumstances are, and it comes is many forms.

It's just a theory, but one reason women may exhibit more in-group bias based on gender is because society is constantly telling them that women (as a group) are oppressed and that men (as a group) are the enemy. No doubt this could trigger the survival instinct in women who are too oblivious to know any better. Women are easily influenced and manipulated, so without a strong, positive male influence in their lives, it's very easy for women to buy into this nonsense.

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– Mystiker 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

But that's not male in-group bias, and so it won't affect men's judgements in court.

But the female in-group bias does affect it, because it applies to all females, regardless of their shared experiences or connections.

Women will blindly take the side of other random women that they don't even know. Men never do that.

It's just a theory, but one reason women may exhibit more in-group bias based on gender is because society is constantly telling them that women (as a group) are oppressed and that men (as a group) are the enemy.

That can't be true, because women have had in-group bias for many thousands of years, and this idea that "women are oppressed and men are the enemy" happened very recently, not long enough for evolution to occur.

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– novanleon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

But that's not male in-group bias, and so it won't affect men's judgements in court.

But the female in-group bias does affect it, because it applies to all females, regardless of their shared experiences or connections.

Everyone has a bias in favor of women, including and maybe even especially men, so I think you'd have a hard time arguing the point that women shouldn't be judges on that point alone.

Women will blindly take the side of other random women that they don't even know. Men never do that.

I'm not so sure about this. I don't think this blind loyalty to other women is normal at all, historically speaking. A couple hundred years ago women were the ones primarily responsible for guiding, correcting and shaming other women into proper behavior. Women would often be the first to accuse other women of being promiscuous or seducing or exploiting men for personal gain. Even today women are very hostile (i.e. passive aggressive) towards one another except in situations where men are perceived as a threat and then they band together (which makes sense biologically given their physical disadvantage). The difference today is women are raised believing they are constantly being oppressed by men so this instinct is active 100% of the time.

Additionally, you yourself are evidence of male in-group bias. It's much less likely for men to exhibit in-group bias in favor of all other men, because most men don't see women as a threat, but the moment they do (like you), the in-group bias manifests. This is because in-group bias is a survival mechanism.

That can't be true, because women have had in-group bias for many thousands of years, and this idea that "women are oppressed and men are the enemy" happened very recently, not long enough for evolution to occur.

I'd like to see a source for that, because I'm not convinced. We can do studies today on female behavior, but no such studies exist from hundreds or thousands of years ago, and I don't see any evidence in the history books of this type of behavior being the norm.

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