Again, you seem pretty reasonable. I’d wager there is probably a lot we could agree on. Not voting for Hillary in 16 would be a start.
One of the problems is a LOT of people here don’t want to find common ground. They’re angry at everyone else but refuse to look in the mirror (I’m looking at you, MGTOW.) They have decided that if you aren’t exactly like them, you’re the enemy. They want to watch the world burn because their life experience has been less than ideal.
On top of that, you have people pretending to be American, spreading lies and propaganda in an effort to further the divide in America, and have it tear itself apart. It is working.
I’m pro 2a and freedom of speech, so I don’t think banning information, websites or ideas is the way to go. That said, this place is especially toxic, and in reality, I don’t see anything truly positive coming from it.
Well we definitely agree on guns and free speech. I’m just saying I’ve seen just as much “toxicicity” on the left. Like I said I have a lot of leftists in my extended family and get to hear the talking points a lot. I do agree we need to do better with finding common ground and sometimes it’s ok to agree to disagree.
Like with entertainment I don’t watch a lot of new stuff and decided to mainly watch older stuff.
That could just be nostalgia but I must admit, there is a recent explosion of over representation of minority groups in our media. Some believe this to be a nefarious plan to brainwash us into all being gay/trans/....black? I believe it to be nothing more than current, popular marketing and pandering. After all, liberalism is the majority in America. Does that make it bad, evil or wrong? I don’t think so, but I’ll be the first to admit that is opinion and not fact. But because of hyper polarization, it’s near impossible to have these kinds of conversations. The extremes represent both sides in the media. Fox would have all of their viewers believe that anyone who voted for Biden is a blue haired, soy drinking, child transitioning, CRT teaching, vax stabbing NPC, while the left’s media would have their viewers equally shitty things about the entire right. Where in reality, most people aren’t polar extremes, and there is a lot we could agree on.
Very true. Or there are things we could find middle ground on. Like ive found with some Bernie voters. I’m 41 so I think part of its nostalgia but I do think the over representation can be lazy and as a black person I’m personally tired of the “racism is everywhere” talking points. But you are right. It is popular marketing and that’s what gets people talking. But there is plenty of older shows and books to read for me.
In the movie zeitgeist at the end they talk about combining the best of conservatives and liberals to make an ideal society. You should check it out.
Zeitgeist, zeitgeist: addendum and zeitgeist: moving forward are all movies that I have nostalgia for, as they were integral in my questioning of reality.
I knew there was more common ground in there if we just dug a little deeper.
Again, you seem pretty reasonable. I’d wager there is probably a lot we could agree on. Not voting for Hillary in 16 would be a start.
One of the problems is a LOT of people here don’t want to find common ground. They’re angry at everyone else but refuse to look in the mirror (I’m looking at you, MGTOW.) They have decided that if you aren’t exactly like them, you’re the enemy. They want to watch the world burn because their life experience has been less than ideal.
On top of that, you have people pretending to be American, spreading lies and propaganda in an effort to further the divide in America, and have it tear itself apart. It is working.
I’m pro 2a and freedom of speech, so I don’t think banning information, websites or ideas is the way to go. That said, this place is especially toxic, and in reality, I don’t see anything truly positive coming from it.
Plus I like on here that they are very real and don’t hold back opinions to be nice to me. Which reminds me of the cousins I told you about.
Well we definitely agree on guns and free speech. I’m just saying I’ve seen just as much “toxicicity” on the left. Like I said I have a lot of leftists in my extended family and get to hear the talking points a lot. I do agree we need to do better with finding common ground and sometimes it’s ok to agree to disagree.
Like with entertainment I don’t watch a lot of new stuff and decided to mainly watch older stuff.
That could just be nostalgia but I must admit, there is a recent explosion of over representation of minority groups in our media. Some believe this to be a nefarious plan to brainwash us into all being gay/trans/....black? I believe it to be nothing more than current, popular marketing and pandering. After all, liberalism is the majority in America. Does that make it bad, evil or wrong? I don’t think so, but I’ll be the first to admit that is opinion and not fact. But because of hyper polarization, it’s near impossible to have these kinds of conversations. The extremes represent both sides in the media. Fox would have all of their viewers believe that anyone who voted for Biden is a blue haired, soy drinking, child transitioning, CRT teaching, vax stabbing NPC, while the left’s media would have their viewers equally shitty things about the entire right. Where in reality, most people aren’t polar extremes, and there is a lot we could agree on.
Very true. Or there are things we could find middle ground on. Like ive found with some Bernie voters. I’m 41 so I think part of its nostalgia but I do think the over representation can be lazy and as a black person I’m personally tired of the “racism is everywhere” talking points. But you are right. It is popular marketing and that’s what gets people talking. But there is plenty of older shows and books to read for me.
In the movie zeitgeist at the end they talk about combining the best of conservatives and liberals to make an ideal society. You should check it out.
Zeitgeist, zeitgeist: addendum and zeitgeist: moving forward are all movies that I have nostalgia for, as they were integral in my questioning of reality.
I knew there was more common ground in there if we just dug a little deeper.