After I saw the Cowboy Bebop trailer (...), I thought fans of old and respected sci-fi staples could use a bit of good news: they didn't do our boy Franky H half-bad this time, if you ask me.
This is prolly gonna be long, so thanks in advance for bearing with me.
TL;DR for total newcomers: Dune has never been an easy franchise to get into. If you try to start with the book, you get a huge Tolkien-style index of in-universe vocab that you have to constantly consult to understand what the hell is going on.
If you start with one of the many cuts of Lynch's movie adaptation, you most likely get an awkward 15-minute expository prologue, either from some random narrator dude or from some princess that doesn't really figure into the story of the first book at all, and it still leaves plenty of holes. It's great for fans, but not so much for newcomers.
Up till now, that left the TV mini-series, which we generally don't talk about, valiant an effort as it was.
All that to say to anyone here who is curious about Dune: IMO this new film adaptation is your best bet at investing a couple hours to dip your toes in. You'll come away with an honest impression of what all the fuss has been about these past 55 years.
If I was gonna try to sell you on the thing itself rather than its popularity, I'd direct your attention to what's happened to Star Wars, which incidentally never really gave a proper nod to all the inspiration it took from Dune IMO (not to mention Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress...and those bad BG bitches are the OG Jedi amirite lads?). If your heart is broken over the woke-brokening of SW, take comfort...there is another (epic space opera as yet unbenighted by the SJW menace).
I score the new film on some "woke categories" below (spoilers).
TL;DR for fans: My honest opinion is that it at least doesn't take a shit on the franchise.
The elephant in the room is the gender/race swap on Kynes. An obnoxious move, yes, and it messes with Chani's lore a bit. But the way her character plays out is no where near Paul Feig Ghostbusters/Leslie Jones level of racial/feminist lampshading. See "woke scores" here for the deets:
Propaganda?
2/10 Woke: Yes the "diversity" is there, but I couldn't find a single lampshade moment where a characters skin color was even hinted at. Yea it gets the two points for swapping Kynes, but she does her job, respects her superiors, and there's absolutely zero snaps fingers "Oh no you di'int" clowning. Same thing for all other "diverse" characters. Sure, the exploration of "colonial themes" is still a central theme, but everyone behaves in a believable fashion according to their faction rather than their skin color. 2 points for the Kynes swap tho.
2/10 Feminist: One point for the Kynes swap, one point for Villeneuve going around sucking the SJW dildo on the interview circuit simping about "centering women" or whatever. Refreshingly, in the film itself every character behaves appropriately to their station in the hierarchy. The Reverend Mother casts an imposing presence and really stresses Lady Jessica out. But Jessica deals with her subordinates aptly. Shadout Mapes in turn fears her. Chani is never like "Grrrll power," and grants Paul respect after he duels his way into her tribe. No infestation of "pronouns" or "gender identity," etc...
1/10 Degenerate: We'll have to see what they do with the Fremen orgies if and when there's a sequel, but zero degeneracy this time. In fact, the one point is only because they removed certain degenerate tendencies of Baron Harkonnen. Still a very believable version of the character IMO.
Other than that I really enjoyed everything else. The whole thing is pretty based with uniforms and ceremony, customs and culture, etc...
My favorite thing is probably the absolute WH40K direction they took the Sardaukar in.
Obviously all the technical aspects are seriously upgraded from Lynch.
8.5/10 will watch again. Here's hoping we get a sequel.
I've been watching this, but I'm still not all the way through.
Beautiful outdoor cinematagrophy. A lot of visually awesome scenes. Many great casting choices, and yet...
I'm finding it kind of boring.
There's too much "whisipering = drama" and some of the scene switches are very jarring. Paul, Jessica, and Khal Drogo are all good and developed, everyone else is kind of secondary.
The Gom'jabbar scene is one example. So much whispering=drama and intensity. I reread the scene in the book, and all of the characters are basically having a conversation. The reverend mother even basically apologizes for how long she held the gom'jabbar to Paul. I like the way the new Bene Gesserit are presented.
Perhaps my favourite scene of the Lynch movie was when Paul, his father, Liet Kynes, and Gurney go on an inspection of a spice crawler. It was intense, great music, and it's very clear that Liet Kynes is very impressed by the Atreides, even though he doesn't want to be. I liked the way Paul huffs spice in this version, but other than the sandworm attack itself, it was kind of dull. The Kyes race+gender swap doesn't bother me, but she's not very good at the role. She's the fucking imperial planetologist, the personal representative of the Emperor--and also a secret supporter of the Fremen. She should carry herself like it.
I was annoyed at the Lynch movie for making the Harkonnens SO nasty. I mean, we're talking about brutal, slaving, mudering, raping, pederasts. Why do they also need to have gross boils and drink blood? Same for this movie--why do they have to have this unnatural demonic voice.
I fucking love the 'thopters.