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posted 4 years ago by Sifbtjr 4 years ago by Sifbtjr +45 / -0

Investing massive amounts of care and interest in to fake characters and products controlled by rich strangers was really stupid

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– Happily_Grim 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I mean, it might sound pretty manipulative of me, but I've found that the best approach to getting people to open up is to find something relatable, something that isn't out of place for anyone to say and that's a pretty bland statement. After that, you then follow it up with an additional comment that people are somewhat divided upon that's not too inflammatory, but you do it in a way that makes you seem almost naive or uninformed on the topic.
It's all to gauge their reaction and response. After they take the bait, you know everything you need and can proceed with a conversation or let it drop from there.
In my case, he seemed like a nice enough guy, so I used it to further probe. The most important thing in conversations like that is making concessions. People love to be told their right — even when they're wrong. But you can almost always find something in what they say that may hold some truth. You use that to feed their ego that way it doesn't end up in an argument, but rather, slowly making them consider what you're right about. People are pretty social creatures who want to find common ground. If done properly, you can find out a lot about people.
But that's just my experience. Maybe others have different methods that work just as well.

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– subbookkeeper 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I mean, it might sound pretty manipulative of me

Not at all.

Scott Adams has a good guide somewhere on deprogramming people, I think this is the one I'm thinking of: https://www.scottadamssays.com/episode-1313-scott-adams-wokeness-cult-deprogramming-cnn-cancels-abe-lincoln-north-korea-misses-trump/

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– Happily_Grim 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

For some reason, it's been pulled. Even trying to Direct Download it doesn't work.
Still, I do feel it's important to at the very least plant that seed of doubt in someone's mind.
The odds of actually changing how someone views the world are close to nonexistent; however, in my experience, if you can make it so they think they changed their minds on their own, then you'll have much more success. You just need to plant seeds.
Obviously, the more frequently you can do so the better the chances for success are. The concept that people truly can be their own "journalist" in 2021 is something that seems to be almost like an epiphany for some. Of course there's always those who simply prefer to be told their view or to find the path of least resistance. I don't think there's much that can be done there without working with them more.

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– subbookkeeper 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

weird, Rumble link here: https://rumble.com/ven23l-episode-1313-scott-adams-wokeness-cult-deprogramming-cnn-cancels-abe-lincol.html

I'm assuming you're already familiar with his work based on your previous posts.

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– Happily_Grim 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Sure, I know who Scott is and I've seen some of his morning videos. But I haven't read his books or listened to his podcasts. I don't really listen to any podcast, though. I've always enjoyed what I've seen from him; however, he can be exceedingly obstinate in his positions at times. Which is both a good thing and a bad thing. The bad thing being it closes his mind off to information that's valuable to understanding a bigger picture and the good obviously being that he has confidence in himself — which makes it clear that his path to learning is one of self-discovery.
Although I have been very interested in reading his books I haven't gotten around to them yet. They're on my list of things to read. I just haven't gotten around to them.
Thanks for the link!

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