encouraging and incentivizing people to become furries
Here's my major point. Politically, we do have some incentives given to degenerates. While I think we can agree that it has not reached an alarming level demanding revolution, I do think it's worth being troubled over.
Of course, the topic was specifically furries, but I think it's okay to spread it out to all fringe degenerates. I can tolerate homo pride parades (since I never see them), but a parade for furry, zoo, cannabilism, etc would be quite alarming. It's kind of a stretch, but I could blame part of the whole tranny thing on the political priviledges enjoyed by females (even a little is too much). The government likely didn't intend that result, at least. Positive reinforcement is effective, so I don't like seeing it generated by policy so easily - it's bad enough we have to deal with problems at a cultural level, we don't need help making it worse.
I thought about it a little more and am now speculating that grifters (all exploitable communities get grifters occasionally) from these fringe "communities" are the primary drivers of getting the fringe to become normalized. If I were a guy scamming furries, I might have an enjoyable amount of power/money, but if furry suddenly became mainstream then my power would increase. Luckily, most of these fringe grifters don't have the smarts or connections to pull this off; they're probably grifting in the fringe because they couldn't cut it elsewhere. However, all it really takes is a couple of high-power retards to agree with the grifter and give birth to new political incentives.
I do disagree with some of the minor points in your argument, as I have had some really positive experiences with furries, but I won't actually argue any of it because it's in my best interest for furries to be undesirable. If they weren't so openly ridiculous, I'd have to see more grifters messing with them, and I don't want that even though the majority of them deserve it (they even contain a disturbing amount of middle managers and other do-nothing-for-big-bucks vocations). I want to mention it at least, because I think it's psychologically fascinating for a person to fabricate a persona based on what they wish they were like. The ones that choose bright colors and other attention-grabbing details are plainly desiring attention, which can lead to an unpleasant personality, so I can validate you there, at least.
Your hypothesis about grifting has merit, but I don't know how I could prove it.
If they weren't so openly ridiculous, I'd have to see more grifters messing with them, and I don't want that even though the majority of them deserve it (they even contain a disturbing amount of middle managers and other do-nothing-for-big-bucks vocations).
I don't want that either, because that's the least degenerate thing about them. Sad, more than anything else, because they want to be beautiful and attractive, but don't have it. Instead of doing the work to overcome that, they move towards playing dress-up which is more expensive, but less personally intensive.
I think they have a misunderstanding of cause and effect there that makes them as tragic as they are. I've encountered several that wanted things like adoration, love, respect, but they didn't have a clue how to realistically achieve their desires. I think back and wonder if they even truly understood their own desires.
It makes the whole fursona thing more ironic/tragic, because they've developed this practice that makes hugbox functionality highly efficient by giving direct clues as to what they desire, but then everyone acts blind to what they see unless it suits their own desires.
Edit: To be clear, I'm saying that desires such as "be beautiful and attractive" are not true desires, and that there's typically a deeper desire pushing such ideas to the surface of the mind as the consciousness struggles to translate the subconscious.
They are looking for social value and community at a fundamental level. They have no idea how to achieve that in the normal world, and this is probably the first time they've ever felt like they were successful at it.
It's like the social value and community they seek... but it isn't it. It's the best they can do because they haven't been properly socialized; and the bar is set low enough to be achievable for the most low status individuals.
Here's my major point. Politically, we do have some incentives given to degenerates. While I think we can agree that it has not reached an alarming level demanding revolution, I do think it's worth being troubled over.
Of course, the topic was specifically furries, but I think it's okay to spread it out to all fringe degenerates. I can tolerate homo pride parades (since I never see them), but a parade for furry, zoo, cannabilism, etc would be quite alarming. It's kind of a stretch, but I could blame part of the whole tranny thing on the political priviledges enjoyed by females (even a little is too much). The government likely didn't intend that result, at least. Positive reinforcement is effective, so I don't like seeing it generated by policy so easily - it's bad enough we have to deal with problems at a cultural level, we don't need help making it worse.
I thought about it a little more and am now speculating that grifters (all exploitable communities get grifters occasionally) from these fringe "communities" are the primary drivers of getting the fringe to become normalized. If I were a guy scamming furries, I might have an enjoyable amount of power/money, but if furry suddenly became mainstream then my power would increase. Luckily, most of these fringe grifters don't have the smarts or connections to pull this off; they're probably grifting in the fringe because they couldn't cut it elsewhere. However, all it really takes is a couple of high-power retards to agree with the grifter and give birth to new political incentives.
I do disagree with some of the minor points in your argument, as I have had some really positive experiences with furries, but I won't actually argue any of it because it's in my best interest for furries to be undesirable. If they weren't so openly ridiculous, I'd have to see more grifters messing with them, and I don't want that even though the majority of them deserve it (they even contain a disturbing amount of middle managers and other do-nothing-for-big-bucks vocations). I want to mention it at least, because I think it's psychologically fascinating for a person to fabricate a persona based on what they wish they were like. The ones that choose bright colors and other attention-grabbing details are plainly desiring attention, which can lead to an unpleasant personality, so I can validate you there, at least.
Your hypothesis about grifting has merit, but I don't know how I could prove it.
I don't want that either, because that's the least degenerate thing about them. Sad, more than anything else, because they want to be beautiful and attractive, but don't have it. Instead of doing the work to overcome that, they move towards playing dress-up which is more expensive, but less personally intensive.
I think they have a misunderstanding of cause and effect there that makes them as tragic as they are. I've encountered several that wanted things like adoration, love, respect, but they didn't have a clue how to realistically achieve their desires. I think back and wonder if they even truly understood their own desires.
It makes the whole fursona thing more ironic/tragic, because they've developed this practice that makes hugbox functionality highly efficient by giving direct clues as to what they desire, but then everyone acts blind to what they see unless it suits their own desires.
Edit: To be clear, I'm saying that desires such as "be beautiful and attractive" are not true desires, and that there's typically a deeper desire pushing such ideas to the surface of the mind as the consciousness struggles to translate the subconscious.
No, you're right, that's exactly the problem.
They are looking for social value and community at a fundamental level. They have no idea how to achieve that in the normal world, and this is probably the first time they've ever felt like they were successful at it.
It's like the social value and community they seek... but it isn't it. It's the best they can do because they haven't been properly socialized; and the bar is set low enough to be achievable for the most low status individuals.