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Uhhh...based libertarians? (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 4 years ago by SparkMandrill83 4 years ago by SparkMandrill83 +66 / -1
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– SparkMandrill83 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Both those things have been heavily debated in libertarian circles lately. A lot are agreeing they are low priority if not outright utopian fantasy. There are plenty of other libertarian stances that are worth fighting for without getting butthurt about those.

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– exilde 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That's good to hear. The utopianism is what ultimately turned me off to it. It defies basic human nature, even if they get market capitalism correct. Hopefully, they'll get to the questions of virtue and self-control, and whether liberty can exist without them.

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– SparkMandrill83 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Hopefully, they'll get to the questions of virtue and self-control, and whether liberty can exist without them.

Ron Paul is a Christian and has said many times that a religious, educated populace is the only one that can truly practice liberty.

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– exilde 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, and in the absense of that, libertarianism is very poor fit. It has no solutions for restoring or maintaining a virtuous population. The open borders thing just adds insult to the naivety, but I'm glad it's falling out of favor.

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