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A giant climate change fraud was just exposed The most incredible quote from the whole affair is from an IPCC member: "If such a controversy gets outside of the community, it's harmful because the whole community loses credibility" (www.sciencemag.org)
posted 4 years ago by SophiesBoyfriend 4 years ago by SophiesBoyfriend +124 / -0
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– DWSage007 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Betting against catastrophe is always a good idea, but conclusively asserting that it's a "hoax" with absolutely nothing to back it up is also pretty absurd.

Remember how we were supposed to be underwater in 12 years? The hole in the o-zone layer to destroy us all? Melting polar ice caps? There may have been some nuggets of truth hidden away in them, but frankly, calling them a hoax is being gentle. 'Directed lies to seize assets' would be closer to the truth.

We could always pollute less and 'conserve' more. The problem is that at the present, it's being pushed way past the point of vastly diminishing returns. But for most people, it's just a religion - putting plastic in a separate garbage bin is their good deed of the week.

Few arguments there, I was thinking more along the lines of all these stupid masks getting put into recycle bins and pushing for more items to be made from locally recycled material instead of cheap plastic from China.

There is not really a uniform set of 'data' that we can speak about.

Fair, I wasn't communicating clearly there. "Any information about CC published by mass media and/or that push for political control rather than targeted improvements" won't be taken at face value. If it shows up in a science magazine, it's a maybe. If it's a published paper, I'll at least humor the idea and see if it remains internally consistent. If it comes from a politician's or celebrity's lips, I would rather eat fresh vomit than accept it.

That said, I can't blame those that just go 'It's a hoax' still. Because after fifty years of Chicken Little screaming for attention, you either tune him out or you become the next Chicken Little.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Remember how we were supposed to be underwater in 12 years? The hole in the o-zone layer to destroy us all? Melting polar ice caps? There may have been some nuggets of truth hidden away in them

No, alarmists have no nugget of truth to offer whatsoever. None of this nonsense was backed by "the scientific consensus" that they always brag about. It's mostly pushed by the media. and activists.

'Directed lies to seize assets' would be closer to the truth.

Depends on who you are talking about. The alarmists, that is correct, but that wouldn't make the whole thing a hoax.

I was thinking more along the lines of all these stupid masks getting put into recycle bins and pushing for more items to be made from locally recycled material instead of cheap plastic from China.

The funny thing is that this will likely use up more resources than just importing them made from cheap plastic from China. Why that is 'sustainable', no one knows.

"Any information about CC published by mass media and/or that push for political control rather than targeted improvements" won't be taken at face value. If it shows up in a science magazine, it's a maybe.

I agree with that, although I will say that science 'magazines' are generally propaganda outlets. What is semi-respectable is the science journals, but even they are being increasingly corruptetd by IDPol.

If it comes from a politician's or celebrity's lips, I would rather eat fresh vomit than accept it.

That is no more than common sense.

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