The fact they're coming up with such an obviously bullshit excuse should tell you that it's not possible for leftie to have an "honest discussion" about this topic. They want plausible deniability so they don't look "cruel" to their fellow lefties.

It's the equivalent to the girl asking if you want to come up and have coffee and responding "but at dinner you said you didn't like coffee; were you lying then, or are you lying now?" That is to say, it's completely missing the point of the question and using it to win a game only you're playing. Meanwhile everyone goes home emptyhanded.