About nine months ago this lifeboat came into existence following massive purges by Reddit admins against non-establishment conforming materials. Those purges never ended, which is why this particular forum has become the overall bastion for KIA2/GG materials.
On the creation of this site we were presented a set of 16 rules which we, the users, were questioned about. Overwhelming we found that the rules were overbearing and redundant.
Many of these rules are redundant, unnecessary, or bad.
The most obvious of which is that there are THREE rules covering NSFW/pornographic material. It was pointed out by myself as well as numerous other users that these were redundant and pointless, and the assumption was that these would be changed as the rules were simply temporary.
It's nine months on.
Those are only the most egregiously obvious.
The reason I make this post today is that our rules are so open-ended and confusing that even our illustrious mods have no idea WTF they mean.
I was personally banned for a day for a rule 15 violation after which u/DomitiusOfMassilia/ admitted he misunderstood what the rule meant. Immediately after I watched him make the same mistake with another. Now, a week after, I notice that the majority of action is taken under rules 2, 15, and 16. Almost all content removals are based on slurs/bad language/insults.
This post is largely upvoted while Dom's statement of removal is largely downvoted. That's just one example. This is becoming far too common. Please do not make the same mistakes that murdered KIA1.
Note that I am not calling out Dom specifically. I think the rules themselves are dogshit tier and must be fixed. I like this community, even if I do think you're a bunch of faggots. And goddamnit u/TheImpossible1 there's no women involved here so kindly fuck off.
Can we please have a serious discussion about our rules and the impacts that they have, and FIX THEM? We do not need SIXTEEN RULES, especially when it's clear not even our mods understand them all.
As I replied to AoV below:
And yet Kiwi Farms is still up. I'm sure you've seen the email.
From that thread: Imagine trying to ban a video that will let everyone know exactly what went down and how horrible it was. The video and manifesto turned the attack from a list of numbers and a title to the inner workings of a demented person who went out to kill innocents. People can only benefit from being able to access it.
I get wanting to keep the site up but giving in to demands that aren't even being made is just accepting defeat. Did the .win's admins ever say that couldn't be shared here? Are they filtering private messages like reddit does? If so it would be beneficial to everyone if that information was shared.
I wouldn't use Kiwi Farms as a example of websites being immune. Null is constantly embroiled in lawsuits from literally everywhere because of his refusal to take threads down. Right now he is in over 5 figures of court costs just from the two current ones, and he constantly has to do wacky fund raising to keep up (right now selling silver coins).
I get your point, but KF is in a special position where its run by one guy who owns his website and is willing to go to any extreme, including mega debt and ruining his own life (which he has), to keep it up. Which is a lot different than volunteer jannies.
Yeah, I know what state KF is in.
I don't even like or frequent the site. But if that is what people have to do to keep stuff like that up, well, we are fucked if no one wants to make a stand. As far as I know, the .win admins are willing to do that.
I honestly don't remember. I'd have to ask.
I don't believe so.