So you approve of the statement: "White men are trash."
No, I don't, and that's a rather dishonest argument. The claim that "white men are trash" is fundamentally different than, say, "Jews are not loyal to their country". Only the latter describes an observable phenomenon, while the former is a generic insult and cannot ever be considered constructive. If a generalization is observable, the individual can decide for themselves if they personally agree with it. For example, I don't agree with a lot of the things being said here, but guess what? I'm still here.
Not for me.
...right. In this very thread, you wrote the following:
These low IQ ignoramuses were claiming to be oppressioned, by Bret. It's only fair that he point out that he actually belongs to a group who has suffered far more than these idiots.
You have made the claim that Jews as a group have suffered more than black people. This a generalization about Jews (and black people), one which you have not even bothered substantiating.
You are invoking the fallacy of historical grievance among large groups. The implication is that, since Jews as a group have suffered more (by some arbitrary measuring standard), it is less acceptable to generalize about them. Now, I'm sure you don't agree that the current generation of blacks in America deserve reparations because several generations ago they might have been descendants of slaves. You have failed to show how this suffering applies to Weinstein himself. As far as I can tell, he's an upper-middle class man from an affluent upbringing. Why should the historical suffering of the Jews apply to him?
You also had no issue with asserting that these black in the podcast were "low IQ". Isn't that a generalization, a rather offensive one? Or is it only okay to make generalizations based on personal observations when it is convenient? For example, if I were to say that Weinstein is a "turncoat" which is "something that I have observed in many American Jews" (by the way, I don't agree with this opinion!), how is it fundamentally different than you asserting that the black podcasters were "low IQ" because you have observed that certain groups of black Americans tend to skew that way?
No, I don't, and that's a rather dishonest argument. The claim that "white men are trash" is fundamentally different than, say, "Jews are not loyal to their country". Only the latter describes an observable phenomenon, while the former is a generic insult and cannot ever be considered constructive. If a generalization is observable, the individual can decide for themselves if they personally agree with it. For example, I don't agree with a lot of the things being said here, but guess what? I'm still here.
...right. In this very thread, you wrote the following:
You have made the claim that Jews as a group have suffered more than black people. This a generalization about Jews (and black people), one which you have not even bothered substantiating.
You are invoking the fallacy of historical grievance among large groups. The implication is that, since Jews as a group have suffered more (by some arbitrary measuring standard), it is less acceptable to generalize about them. Now, I'm sure you don't agree that the current generation of blacks in America deserve reparations because several generations ago they might have been descendants of slaves. You have failed to show how this suffering applies to Weinstein himself. As far as I can tell, he's an upper-middle class man from an affluent upbringing. Why should the historical suffering of the Jews apply to him?
You also had no issue with asserting that these black in the podcast were "low IQ". Isn't that a generalization, a rather offensive one? Or is it only okay to make generalizations based on personal observations when it is convenient? For example, if I were to say that Weinstein is a "turncoat" which is "something that I have observed in many American Jews" (by the way, I don't agree with this opinion!), how is it fundamentally different than you asserting that the black podcasters were "low IQ" because you have observed that certain groups of black Americans tend to skew that way?