If you're a member of a given group and you see people accusing you of being evil incarnate because some members of your group who have nothing to do with you are engaged in some nasty stuff, that is not exactly encouragement to side with the good guys.
That's fair. I'm not gonna try to defend people I'm not on personal terms with, and it'd be ridiculous to try to impose my standards of communication on either side of a conflict.
Personally, I can get real loose with my expressions around my irl friends. And I know how it sounds if a bystander overhears. My excuse is that it's one part lazy group labeling and another part emotional release.
I dunno - I don't expect us all to be buddies here, but I hope to see us all work towards similar goals with very little infighting. Maybe that's naive of me.
As far as general optics go, I think we've been improving here with some minor fluctuations. We have an odd bunch, so anyone doing their part to lurk before posting should understand what we're really about...but I have been surprised at the occasional "normie" stumbling in here. So I can understand some concern there.
Personally, I can get real loose with my expressions around my irl friends. And I know how it sounds if a bystander overhears. My excuse is that it's one part lazy group labeling and another part emotional release.
That sort of thing does not concern me. Being free is a good thing, not a bad thing. That said, it is also much different from having a deep ideological commitment to a point of view that vilifies a particular group of people. Make no mistake that any place that allows free speech attracts a good contingent of people who have an obsession with this particular ethnic group, and frankly, they ruin any forum with their nonsense.
I dunno - I don't expect us all to be buddies here, but I hope to see us all work towards similar goals with very little infighting. Maybe that's naive of me.
Then we have to focus on what unites us, which is that SJWs are bad, not something else. In fact, I'd argue that it's a distraction. If people's focus is on the Jews, then they're missing a lot of what happens.
We have an odd bunch, so anyone doing their part to lurk before posting should understand what we're really about...but I have been surprised at the occasional "normie" stumbling in here.
Some people have told me that I need to learn what this place is, or accused me of being a Chinese bot. So at the very least, we are attracting some people not from Reddit.
Make no mistake that any place that allows free speech attracts a good contingent of people who have an obsession with this particular ethnic group, and frankly, they ruin any forum with their nonsense.
Yeah, I get that. I find it exhausting at times. But any that cross the threshold to adapt to their new community instead of letting obsession rule their habits should be welcomed. Certainly not as common as I'd like.
In fact, I'd argue that it's a distraction.
Agreed. It's like an unripened fruit picked up off the ground. I want to see that fruit get turned into a pie, at least.
Like, Impossible1 is a bro sometimes, but he's kind of our local warning sign about getting too caught up in that type of obsession. It's shocking and humorous at first, but then you say "Damn bro are you alright".
Some people have told me that I need to learn what this place is, or accused me of being a Chinese bot. So at the very least, we are attracting some people not from Reddit.
Pretty sure I've seen that tossed at you even on r/kia2. I appreciate the efforts you've put in even if I disagree with how you handle things.
As for the new blood, it's a toss-up. We're neighbors with thedonald and several other "wrong think" groups now, even if the distance grows from here. I don't think our little hole here is the only place they can go to say naughty things now, so that helps. We may have successfully reached some people that we couldn't have reached on reddit, so that's pretty good.
Yeah, I get that. I find it exhausting at times. But any that cross the threshold to adapt to their new community instead of letting obsession rule their habits should be welcomed. Certainly not as common as I'd like.
I agree. I certainly don't want to ban people who have 'bad' opinions if they're not wrecking the place, intentionally or unintentionally. There are people who can keep it in their pockets, although it's almost as if they're waiting for the moderators to cease their vigilance for just one moment to start spewing some crap.
Like, Impossible1 is a bro sometimes, but he's kind of our local warning sign about getting too caught up in that type of obsession. It's shocking and humorous at first, but then you say "Damn bro are you alright".
It's easy to vilify groups and justify it as 'pattern recognition', as no one does the actual research necessary to justify the kinds of claims made. I've seen many of these people claim that 'most' of the anti-white ideologues are Jewish, but never did they present any evidence. And even if they did, the relationship with what the conclusions they want to draw is tenuous at best.
Pretty sure I've seen that tossed at you even on r/kia2. I appreciate the efforts you've put in even if I disagree with how you handle things.
And I appreciate that. Yes, it occurs on /r/kia2 at times, but much less than here. If you were around for the whole 'talks' things, that was when people (at least vocal ones) were most angry, for the least cause by the way. I'm actually surprised at how little people protest against much more far-reaching stuff like taking the place private. And most people regard it as undesirable, it seems to me, unlike you.
As for the new blood, it's a toss-up. We're neighbors with thedonald and several other "wrong think" groups now, even if the distance grows from here. I don't think our little hole here is the only place they can go to say naughty things now, so that helps. We may have successfully reached some people that we couldn't have reached on reddit, so that's pretty good.
The voting suggests that there tons of crazies here, quite ironic considering that they can voice their opinions in so many other places. I do think TD bans 'wacism' and other wrongthink, so who knows?
If you're a member of a given group and you see people accusing you of being evil incarnate because some members of your group who have nothing to do with you are engaged in some nasty stuff, that is not exactly encouragement to side with the good guys.
That's fair. I'm not gonna try to defend people I'm not on personal terms with, and it'd be ridiculous to try to impose my standards of communication on either side of a conflict.
Personally, I can get real loose with my expressions around my irl friends. And I know how it sounds if a bystander overhears. My excuse is that it's one part lazy group labeling and another part emotional release.
I dunno - I don't expect us all to be buddies here, but I hope to see us all work towards similar goals with very little infighting. Maybe that's naive of me.
As far as general optics go, I think we've been improving here with some minor fluctuations. We have an odd bunch, so anyone doing their part to lurk before posting should understand what we're really about...but I have been surprised at the occasional "normie" stumbling in here. So I can understand some concern there.
That sort of thing does not concern me. Being free is a good thing, not a bad thing. That said, it is also much different from having a deep ideological commitment to a point of view that vilifies a particular group of people. Make no mistake that any place that allows free speech attracts a good contingent of people who have an obsession with this particular ethnic group, and frankly, they ruin any forum with their nonsense.
Then we have to focus on what unites us, which is that SJWs are bad, not something else. In fact, I'd argue that it's a distraction. If people's focus is on the Jews, then they're missing a lot of what happens.
Some people have told me that I need to learn what this place is, or accused me of being a Chinese bot. So at the very least, we are attracting some people not from Reddit.
Yeah, I get that. I find it exhausting at times. But any that cross the threshold to adapt to their new community instead of letting obsession rule their habits should be welcomed. Certainly not as common as I'd like.
Agreed. It's like an unripened fruit picked up off the ground. I want to see that fruit get turned into a pie, at least.
Like, Impossible1 is a bro sometimes, but he's kind of our local warning sign about getting too caught up in that type of obsession. It's shocking and humorous at first, but then you say "Damn bro are you alright".
Pretty sure I've seen that tossed at you even on r/kia2. I appreciate the efforts you've put in even if I disagree with how you handle things.
As for the new blood, it's a toss-up. We're neighbors with thedonald and several other "wrong think" groups now, even if the distance grows from here. I don't think our little hole here is the only place they can go to say naughty things now, so that helps. We may have successfully reached some people that we couldn't have reached on reddit, so that's pretty good.
I agree. I certainly don't want to ban people who have 'bad' opinions if they're not wrecking the place, intentionally or unintentionally. There are people who can keep it in their pockets, although it's almost as if they're waiting for the moderators to cease their vigilance for just one moment to start spewing some crap.
It's easy to vilify groups and justify it as 'pattern recognition', as no one does the actual research necessary to justify the kinds of claims made. I've seen many of these people claim that 'most' of the anti-white ideologues are Jewish, but never did they present any evidence. And even if they did, the relationship with what the conclusions they want to draw is tenuous at best.
And I appreciate that. Yes, it occurs on /r/kia2 at times, but much less than here. If you were around for the whole 'talks' things, that was when people (at least vocal ones) were most angry, for the least cause by the way. I'm actually surprised at how little people protest against much more far-reaching stuff like taking the place private. And most people regard it as undesirable, it seems to me, unlike you.
The voting suggests that there tons of crazies here, quite ironic considering that they can voice their opinions in so many other places. I do think TD bans 'wacism' and other wrongthink, so who knows?