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posted 5 years ago by NihilistCaregiver 5 years ago by NihilistCaregiver +19 / -0
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– evilmathmagician 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, informed consent is a big thing. I'm still struggling to imagine how it could be corrected, because I believe a lot of the obfuscation is directly tied to beaurocratic bloat.

I've been thinking recently, that even for the libertarian ideal, it's essential to maximise 'informed consent'. The ideal of the contract, I'd say, is founded upon maximal understanding of the terms/conditions by all concerned parties. If no one understands the terms, the contract is useless. If only one person understands the contract, it's likely a scam. If all but one person understands the contract, it's predatory.

Having a system set up to demand translators (lawyers) is a big warning sign. Needing professionals to translate jargon is the same.

The tipping point for me here was EULAs. What a load of shit these are. "By clicking agree, you agree to this 40 page document of fine print", with the subtext always being that you may not use the product without clicking agree. We could do without this, at the least. It should not be possible to sign away your rights without understanding that you're doing so AND it should not be a respected contract when you're effectively coerced into it.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I'm still struggling to imagine how it could be corrected, because I believe a lot of the obfuscation is directly tied to beaurocratic bloat.

"Fuck you, I'm not paying until you make it clear."

Part of the beauty of a voluntary system is to make sure the consumer is maximally empowered to save and spend their money only at their choosing. It's actually why protectionism is harmful for the consumer. The consumer must be skeptical, and maybe even downright confrontational with their money and time.

The tipping point for me here was EULAs. What a load of shit these are.

Agreed, but remember that the reason they are there is because the government is expansive enough to use it's bureaucratic bloat to protect these companies in every conceivable way that only a team of lawyers can possibly understand.

Strip them of that protection and make them rely only on the consumer's kindness, and you'll see an entirely different business.

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