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Time is actually bragging about how they rigged the election against Donald Trump (web.archive.org)
posted 5 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor 5 years ago by onetruephilosoraptor +92 / -0
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– BonusPretzel 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

How did the French seek justice during the French Revolution? How did the American colonists seek justice during the Revolution? They did not seek justice thru the system. They could not have, as the system was too corrupt. The system was the problem.

Same thing here. We will have to go around the system to find justice. Secession would be the best solution. Let the lefties live out their totalitarian fantasies on their own dime. They can reap whatever they choose to sow. I prefer to be elsewhere, as detached as possible. Sadly, I fear a lot of violence and suffering must occur before that separation becomes reality.

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– ajfofjakf 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

The thing about secession is, at the moment, it is only a temporary solution. If a brand new continent rose of of the Pacific and was populated solely by right leaning individuals how long before a boat full of leftists showed of and not asked but demanded to be let in?

And, maybe, at first they would be asked to turn back. But until people realize you can't just not be leftist, you must actively be anti-leftist, they would eventually be let in. And start doing all the things they fled from.

The right needs to finally figure out the only response to these people is "Go fuck yourself and get the fuck of my lawn"

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– Chairman_Pooh 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

In both these cases, the elites were on board, that is to say the actual elites vs the old system.

In France, it was the class of traders, bankers and businessmen that had established itself with the growth of capitalism and who had all the money vs. the waning feudal aristocracy that, despite their official privileges, was deeply indebted to the former and couldn't fund itself to (literally) save their lives.

In the nascent US, it was a very similar story, amplified by the fact that the King was an ocean away. The King had decided to start taxing their businesses and intervene in them running the colonial governments.They wouldn't have it and so they kicked the King out.

The French one was clearly worse. At least in the US, freedom is an ideal that all can share, and even if freedom was won by the rich purely for their own selfish ends, freedom was still won. What's going on currently resembles the French situation much more, complete with proto-communists running around for a while destroying everything tied to the old order before Napoleon (who was clearly on the side of what would now be Wall Street) just declared himself Emperor. "I'm in charge, now you all shut up."

What we're seeing here is the new elite overthrowing the old system, except the old system in this case is democracy. In the American Revolution, the rich were allied with the commoners against the foreigners. Now the alliance is the other way around, and old democracy will not work anymore. This is them saying: we're the ones who are really in charge and it's time we nakedly take power.

To win a revolution you need money and power on your side. The whole reason you even need one is because you don't. There's not going to be a revolution.

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– Archie78 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The greatest irony of the french revolution was the bourgeoisie eliminated the very class they aspired to

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– Johan_Liebert 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Secession is a pipe dream, the left will NEVER leave you alone and will murder any Secessionists or suspected Secession sympathizers without blinking an eye. These people may not actually be the Stasi and NKVD but they're damn sure in favor of their methods and actions and want the same thing....you and anyone else like you or even related to you dead.

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– realerfunction 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

How did the French seek justice during the French Revolution?

there was no justice to be found

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

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