There's no way in hell it would happen, but how wild would it be if Trump walked up to the soldiers surrounding DC and said, "If you want to kill your President - Here I am." and the soldiers let him pass and joined him in walking to the White House. One can dream.
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I also think it is extremely unlikely to happen (I will not say "impossible", because far too much "impossible" shit has happened in the last year). However, I do think there is something to be said about how Trump was greeted with a standing ovation at the Army vs. Navy football game. Another thing worth noting is that when Pence went and met the National Guard deployed in DC, they remained pretty "average" in temperament. But when one of the New Blood Populist Republicans (the kind who ran on Trumps style and message and are already in the House going "I am not here to apologize, I am here to double down") came and met with them it was all cheers. I think that says something, and I am sure its part of the reason the whole "National Guard will betray the Dems during the inauguration" thing is going around.
And while we are on the subject, I think that a populist revolt taking over the system is inevitable. I know all the doom-pill talk on the interwebs right now foretells of eternal darkness and suffering under the endless boot of hard-left ideologues, but to me that seems to be falling into the same "End of History" theory as the Leftist push, which fails for the same reason: it assumes history is static and will never change. But you cant just tell 75 Million people (more if you include the amount of people who are already starting to say that something is rotten in the state of Denmark and started chilling on the Dems after the fact) that they will never be heard again and their issues are meaningless. That WILL lead to the mother of all backlashes, and I dont think the establishment has the power to stop it.
It doesnt even have to be some violent revolution. There were several seats the Republicans lost in California in 2018 to suspicious and/or unethical means that they won back in 2020, even while running Trumpian candidates (which we were told was impossible). All because while the RNC has been more than willing to roll over and show weakness so that they can keep their cushy life as an establishment pawn, the state level GOP have been more than willing to say "You want a knife fight? Then lets have a goddamn knife fight!" and take the Dems own tricks back on them when they can get away with it.
It may not happen now, it may not happen even years from now, but it WILL happen. Because despite what the post-modernist believe, history is NOT static and the situation will always change. All that is to ask is what form will the next one take: A Trump who still believes the situation can be salvaged and returned to normal? A Huey Long who is just as viciously corrupt as the establishment they defeated, they are just using their corruption to help the average man? Or are we going old school and having a Sulla, who will tell the establishment "You had your chance to reform and keep some of your power and wealth and do it peacefully. Now, you will lose it all...the hard way."?
I forget where I read it, but it was something to the effect of authoritarians across time and space generally have a certain playbook, or kneejerk reaction when confronted with issues. One of those is calling out a large military presence when threatened by the people.
So on the one hand, the Establishment feels threatened and wants to use the military to protect them and intimidate any would-be protestor/agitator plebeians from disrupting the inauguration of their candidate. There are around 20-30,000 fully armed soldiers on ground depending on your source, which is more than some nation's actual militaries and more than enough to warrant a named operation.
On the other hand, a bunch of the alt-tech news sites have been saying that the Dems, and by extension, the Establishment, are demanding things like voter history checks and social media screening, basically loyalty tests, because they're paranoid about populist-right supporters. Some have been talking about feeling threatened by populist-right Congressmen and Senators. And they can only use Guardsmen because of 1. the Posse Comitatus Act, and 2. states friendly to the Dems would be more willing to lend their state guards than states friendly to the Rep./populist-right. Either way, all of this makes the Establishment look extremely paranoid about populist-right sympathizers, and really damages how we look on the world stage maybe more than the 6th did.
And somehow they still have the hubris to talk about 'free and fair elections' and 'freedom of speech' like they didn't just silence the most powerful man in the world and halt any and all investigations into voter irregularities.
What I am interested in is what the states that joined Texas and called "foul" are going to do in these coming years. Because with how hard they have been fighting all this, I imagine they are going to make sure that the Feds trying to do anything is going to be the equivalent of pulling teeth, and they will just point to New York and Cali refusing to carry out federal laws in other matters to justify themselves. For instance, I could see Biden trying to do some sort of New Assault Weapons Ban, only for states like Texas, Florida, Kansas, Wyoming, Oklahoma, etc to say "Nope, sorry. Gun sanctuary zone. You want it? Send the ATF to TRY and take it." and there would literally not be enough resources to pull it off. And thats ignoring that the courts might still go our way in some cases (though I am now less confident about the Supreme Court than I was before). And considering a lot of those states have also done fairly well at surviving Covid since a lot of them avoided locking down, they would likely be in a good position to fight that bullshit. Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if when Biden tries to do some BS with illegal immigration, you dont see Texas start going rogue and doing its own thing to make sure that they dont end up there. What I am getting at is: This is far from hopeless, people saying its hopeless need to step back and breath a little bit. And I imagine the next few years will be quite the site to behold.
Does Texas not have the right to form it's own border patrol and arrest any and all illegal immigrants and at least imprison them on state charges?
Fuck the fed.
10th amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Now, while the feds love to wipe their collective asses with the constitution on a regular basis, there are plenty of situations where a state exercises powers that run counter to federal law - illegal alien sanctuaries and cannabis are two well-known if controversial ones.
What can the feds really do if Texas starts being more proactive in guarding its own border? Probably arrest whichever overweight official they'll send to try and stop the state from exercising its own security measures.
The doom pill talk, especially from me, I believe to mostly be an attempt to ensure people insulate themselves from the turmoil.
It won't be as bad as day I keep saying (demolition man future), but many peoples le, even those of us on here will do little unless given a more serious future.
Seeing a tsunami slowly encroach and thinking "it will peter out before it gets to me" will do nothing to prevent the aftermath of flooding nor the destruction of your neighbours.
Better to assume it will affect you, shore up with sandbags, food and ammunition and have but not need. Especially if things don't go way you expect and the NG/AF do flip dem.
I dont know. That might be your attitude, but I have seen far too many people going "Its all hopeless. We can never return to freedom. There is no happiness anymore. The world will descend into darkness. Now if you'll excuse me, I am going to go suck-start a shotgun."
Maybe I am just an optimist, but that attitude doesnt seem particularly productive or useful in preparing for coming hard times. Especially when, at least from my point of view, the left is laying on with the "You should be hopeless and afraid" tactic because they ARENT as strong as they want you to believe they are.
And quite frankly: Giving up is the easy way. Its harder if you want to keep moving forward and find a way to solve this. And it is solvable, it will just be hard.
Fair enough. I'm of the "give up... But" category. This fight is lost. Obsessing over it won't change anything. Now is the time to retrain, insulate, fortify and prepare again. Some see that as doom pill, I just see it as not wasting effort.
I'll fully admit I've been pretty bi-polar with my fairly constant flipping from redpill to doompill these past weeks, and make no mistake, the power held by the Dems will be exercised in a tumultuous and damaging fashion. And they will target people like us -- first humiliation, then locking us out of the goods and services provided under their society, and finally imprisonment if not outright murder of us and our fellows who dare to challenge their rule, their law, their reality.
But, this is our Great Depression, our WWII. Our chance to actually prove we deserve the distinction of being called an American.
Dare I say, I see a bit of a silver lining in this thunderous storm? Dare I say, I'm a little excited at the prospect?
Dare I say, the fools may have given this lost generation who see no future, who just slog through life, an actual purpose?
Also, a whole bunch of Leftists are going to suffer also, which is plenty funny to me.