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posted 4 years ago by Deadlaw 4 years ago by Deadlaw +40 / -3
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– Gideon_Syme 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

A word both on materials for further study and on church hunting:

I think you might enjoy a writer and thinker named GK Chesterton. He was a Christian public intellectual during the early 1900s, a time when most intellectuals were going quite mad in a manner comparable to the woke of today. He has a number of writings against all of the intellectual rot of the time that still hold considerable worth; I’d recommend Heretics and then Orthodoxy. I think you’d like him because he was of a similar opinion on limits being the essence of true art and understanding; there must be rules in order for things to be properly enjoyed. He also made a point to show that reason unchecked led often to unsettled intellects.

As for church hunting, I’d recommend simply trying a bunch. While the decentralized nature of Protestantism means that you won’t have a guarantee of certain things, it also means you can usually find some church that offers what you’re looking for. What would you consider to be too woke by the by? It would be important to nail down certain doctrines so you can know where to look.

Lastly, (and I throw this out only as a customary aside), if you are looking in Christianity for just an anti-wokeness, I’d caution you. While Christianity is supposed to be opposed to the world, that isn’t necessarily the primary ‘thing’ so to speak. Just fair warning to be clear what you’re looking for. I believe that Christianity offers a consistent counter to general wokeness better than anything else, but if used only for that purpose it will be lacking. It’s more than that, as you likely know. Just a caution. I’d love to help in any way I can.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I'd be really curious to know which churches he's going to too. There is no doubt a ton of woke churches but there are plenty of those around that still try to follow the tenets of Christianity, even today.

There's a big YMMV especially depending on what part of the US you're in, but ime Baptists are still relatively on the ball. Though the trick's finding a congregation that isn't pharisaical the stereotype of us hating dancing and any movies but the Lord of the Rings has a lot of truth to it lol.

He's just going to have try church hunting. It's a hassle but eh, at least he'll get a better idea of what he (doesn't) want out of a church as he goes about that. Add'ly, if the woke churches are as woke as the ones I've read about, they'll make it pretty clear either by having rainbow flags up or their pastors will invoke "social justice", or "diversity", "inclusion", and those other words wokeists like to use.

I hear the Eastern Orthodox are pretty good, the ones I've heard talk on youtube and the like seem pretty level-headed anyway. I'd try going to an Eastern Orthodox church if my area actually had any.

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– octagonstone 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Orthodoxy is on my list, I'll definitely check out Heretics as well.

At this point, I attend the church the majority of my family attends. It's ridiculously woke (they had a seminar on truth and reconciliation earlier this year), but until I figure some other things out, I think that there's value in being with family.

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– Gideon_Syme 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I see. That is pretty woke. However, as you say there is value to being with family, especially now. For looking around though, this is actually one of the better times to do so, since most churches have worked hard to be reliably online due to Covid. It’s not a perfect way of figuring them out, but it’s easier than ever to get a general idea of a church than ever before. Figure out what you’re looking for and then check around.

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