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Friendly reminder that the founders of Ben & Jerry ice cream are Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield
posted 5 years ago by BlazeHeatnix832 5 years ago by BlazeHeatnix832 +78 / -0

Recently got a temp ban from KiA2 for very mildly acknowledging this fact. Just testing the waters here.

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– exilde 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Incompatibility of behavior. Behavior that is extremely marginal and stigmatized becomes more pronounced when a small minority amplifies that behavior by disproportionately engaging in it.

Subversion of cultural norms that lend stability to a society are always a problem. When a group that consists of 2% of the population comprises 50% of the subversion vs 65% causing 40%, it's the issue that is more urgent, because 3% will snowball into greater subversiveness (or criminality) quicker than 66%.

Whites are disproportionately criminal compared to East Asians. So would you say that whites are a "destabilizing" element, and what exactly is it destabilizing?

Interesting thought, and I think the answer is likely yes. The problem is that we don't really have masses of white people migrating into asian countries. Around 1:1000 whites will kill someone, and I think that's around an order of magnitude higher than what's generally seen in non-sandnegro Asian countries. Probably the best proxy we have are things like US servicemen raping or killing Japanese, which certainly causes a lot of strife, if not outright destabilization. But again, it's an imperfect proxy, as those servicemen raping and murdering are black as often as not, and the fact that they're young and male further skews any usefulness we could glean from the observation.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Incompatibility of behavior. Behavior that is extremely marginal and stigmatized becomes more pronounced when a small minority amplifies that behavior by disproportionately engaging in it.

That argument, even if we are going to accept it, is an 'is' and not an 'ought'. You cannot get an ought from an is, in other words, you cannot justify your own focus and behavior by saying that "oh, that is just an ingrained psychological mechanism".

My question is: why do you care about 'Jews', when woke Jews are just a subset of the people who are the problem (wokeists), and the vast, vast majority of Jews have nothing at all to do with it?

When a group that consists of 2% of the population comprises 50% of the subversion vs 65% causing 40%, it's the issue that is more urgent, because 3% will snowball into greater subversiveness (or criminality) quicker than 66%.

I don't agree. First of all, it's not 2% causing 50%, but (assuming that your numbers are right) 0.02% causing 50%. And the remaining 50% would then be caused by 0.98%. That is being generous, as it is the demented and reprehensible elites doing this.

Furthermore, I don't agree that a small population causing a lot of the subversion would be a problem. If anything, it would make things more difficult for them, as they generally have a harder time spreading their agenda than if the demographic is broadly based.

Interesting thought, and I think the answer is likely yes. The problem is that we don't really have masses of white people migrating into asian countries.

In order to cause the instability, or to get the information about whether this would cause the instability? Because most Jews today have not emigrated to Western countries in living memory, so that would not be a correct analogy in the former case.

Probably the best proxy we have are things like US servicemen raping or killing Japanese, which certainly causes a lot of strife, if not outright destabilization. But again, it's an imperfect proxy, as those servicemen raping and murdering are black as often as not, and the fact that they're young and male further skews any usefulness we could glean from the observation.

I certainly do agree with you that a small group being disproportionately criminal creates resentment against that group. But that is quite different from the question, again, of whether this is justified - the is-ought.

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– exilde 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

If anything, it would make things more difficult for them, as they generally have a harder time spreading their agenda than if the demographic is broadly based.

They certainly did, until a certain event changed public sentiment.

I certainly do agree with you that a small group being disproportionately criminal creates resentment against that group

Here, if you can understand me when I say "socially criminal (or maybe civically criminal?)" pretty much hits the nail on the head. A society is only as free as the laws it doesn't have to create to foster order and stability.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They certainly did, until a certain event changed public sentiment.

Yeah, the 1960s.

A society is only as free as the laws it doesn't have to create to foster order and stability.

Meaning that multicultural societies inevitably have to suppress liberties in order to keep order and stability?

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– exilde 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The 60s were... unfortunate. But really, Henry Ford wasn't out of the mainstream before WW2.

Meaning that multicultural societies inevitably have to suppress liberties in order to keep order and stability?

Precisely. Society wants stability first and foremost. Freedom will always be secondary to that. But it's been stated better than that:

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

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