I came across this video which explains the progressive view of internet politics from their side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g
It goes into who they view as "alt-right", what they think their opponents are saying and how they think the online world contributes to it all. Covers everything from Jordan Peterson, to Charlottesville, to nazis infiltrating gaming/anime/etc. It also has some hilarious quotes like, "There's a joke on the internet that nerds only perceive two races: white and political".
One of the central themes I got implicitly was that everything not progressive is Nazism. "Not-liberal", "alt-right", and "nazi" are used interchangeably. There's this strange argument that "Nazis are bad" is not a political statement since everyone agrees and that therefore "Nazis are good" is also not a political statement. This combined with the marketplace of ideas provides cover for Nazis to propagate their ideas.
At 18:08, he proposes an onion as a metaphor for the "alt-right". Each layer represents a red pill until a final red pill at the centre, which might be about Jews. He then says that number and order of these pills might vary. It seems like he's really trying to force the metaphor to frame anyone with non-progressive ideas as part of a heirarchy of forbidden ideas which culminates in anti-semitism.
The video lists 14 possible exits from the "cis het white male" centered world but my favorite is the last: "He may revisit an old belief system such as religion, social justice, or a really wholesome fandom (Steven Universe)".
Generally, my autoplay leads to communists like Slavoj Zizek that I just ignore, but i guess it's fun to see what the other side says too. I was frequently surprised to see how often this video validated my stereotypes of progressives. Anyways, 2/10 check it out for a laugh.
Both. The more I learn about both the more they seem diametrically opposed.
Interesting, I was thinking that they'd be more similar. They both want very centralized economies and government and want to restrict thought to a narrow acceptable range.
Yeah that's what they've been painted as in education and media, but that seems to be a case of projection more than anything else to me. Their economy was centralized in some areas and more free in others. They were reducing gun control and increasing the health and safety standards. And a lot of the books that were burned were primarily what would be considered progressive or Critical Theory material now.
I still have more research to do, but when you look at direct sources rather than opinionated ones you get a very different story being told.
It's difficult to research because the victors [re]write history. And we all know who won ww2.
That may be. Admittedly I have little original source knowledge of Nazi ideology thought I am aware of some of those books they burned.
I do find it unlikely that they will be complete opposites though. There's too many dimensions to consider. Still, best of luck with your research. Perhaps you can make a blogpost or something.
Well, I can kind of imagine the sort of shit one might have seen, living rough on the streets and in the flophouses of Vienna at the turn of the last century. One sees a lot of eye-opening shit from the perspective of a rat.