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Using AI to mitigate the pedo problem - yea or nay? (twitter.com)
posted 3 months ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 months ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +25 / -3
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 9 points 3 months ago +10 / -1

I have to agree with @Slatzism. Accessibility does not always satiate demand for sexual acts, it actually sometimes increases it. Legalization of prostitution in Europe exploded demand to the point that biker gangs are still forcing runaways, drug addicts, and Slavic immigrants into brothels because there simply aren't enough women willing to do it, but there's tons of money to be made.

Not sure about the larger point about AI porn though. I think that'll eventually supplant the industry, if for no other reason because the fake will be virtually indistinguishable from the real.

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 17 points 3 months ago +17 / -0

I know for an absolute fact that "AI porn" is blowing up in popularity for still images (both 2d and 3d are amazing quality), and videos are making headway. I think it's entirely inevitable that AI video may completely supplant the real stuff once it can fix its 'object permanence' problems and keep scenes and motions consistent. Whoever this poster is is fucking retarded for suggesting that it's not taking off, at the very least.

I don't tend to like to engage with this subject much because I have an autistic fixation on a question that I never get a satisfactory response for; if violence in all my media isn't making me a mass-murderer, why would sex make me a rapist-to-be? I hear "it just does" and "get in the woodchipper" (even though I haven't advocated for anything) as general responses, I just need a logical (and ultimately legal, laws will cover this) reason to build an argument off of for every other instance of explaining it. We had this problem with Jack Thompson for violence, with Anita for sexism/racism, and now generically for cheese pizza. If Jack and Anita were retards, why is this one right? I don't know how to reconcile "it's not real" and "it's training you to want to do it" logically.

I grew up in the 90s being berated with "weed is a gateway drug!!!" being slung at me from every direction. Both my mom and sister are heavy tokers, but neither have expressed interest in meth, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, pain-killers, or anything else. I don't drink, smoke, or toke at all despite growing up in the same house my whole life. I don't even drink coffee. If weed has not resulted in them spiraling out of control, and it significantly affects the body's chemistry, why would porn affect someone more, or differently? Why would it convince them to "try it?"

I worry what this one will do to my reputation here. I hope you all can understand the good will with which I ask these questions.

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– yeldarb1983 10 points 3 months ago +10 / -0

as a general rule, i tend to avoid engaging in these discussions, as it's so easy to get accused of one thing or another, but I think the biggest concern isn't whether or not it becomes a "gateway drug" for actual abuse or 'satiates' pedos and keeps them from abusing children, it's that as ai gets better and better at creating realistic depictions, it may become a shield for actual abuse. "it's not real, it's just ai, I swear!" if you will.

as to your actual question, there seems to be two major arguments, social normalization (ie: it becomes socially acceptable and breaks down the cultural taboo against sexual abuse of children), and that pedophilia is less about sex than it is about power and/or sadism (ie: the thrill comes from having power over someone else and/or the damage it does to the child). I don't know if that answers your question, but it's the best i've got.

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 6 points 3 months ago +6 / -0

I do not expect definitive answers from anyone at all, don't worry about that. Just being able to articulate specific arguments is good enough for me. I think of it like a trellis for a vine to grow on; I need something to work with or I can't go anywhere with the thought.

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– yeldarb1983 5 points 3 months ago +5 / -0

it can be hard to articulate an argument when there's an emotional element to it, which is unavoidable with anything even remotely related to pedophilia. it's a taboo that crosses species, let alone cultures, to one degree or another.

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