First Look: Harriet Tubman | Civilization VII
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You have a problem with tribal societies?
Just wish people would be honest about them.
They're the human equivalent of wildlife. What an aurochs is to a cow, what a wolf is to a dog.
All apes use tools, all apes eat meat. That was suspected as far back as the 1960s, been recently confirmed. Evolutionarily speaking,the common ancestor of all humanoid apes probably used tools and ate meat, too, rather than these habits being picked up independently (although they've been expressed differently, in different areas just as they express differently across humans in different biomes. eg, only some tribes fish for termites, others are hammer and anvil using nutcrackers; savannah apes use spears, forest-dwelling hunters of duiker use clubs.) Humans are just the ape that specialized in technology (which includes fire for cooking and warmth, and loincloths to keep the ants out of the bum.)
Humans didn't become domesticated until they settled down and started farming.
There were no civilizations in Canada when Cartier came, only wildlife.
The Sentinelese act ike vicious wild beasts, because that's exactly what they are (and it's exactly what they're treated like, but as endangered ones.)
A wolf is free, a dog is a dependent. Do you not know Aesop's fable?
Sure, I'd not like to live in a tribal society either. It has major disadvantages. I'm a dog like you. But they have more freedom than we dogs can even imagine. And I respect that. If they are 'wildlife', then humanity for 95% of its existence was 'wildlife', and apparently the only ones not wildlife are those who were docile enough to settle down so that stationary bandits could squeeze them for tribute and taxation.
You're not wrong. Maybe we actually agree. Just like wolves were domesticated to become more congenial and serve their masters (humans), humans were at least culturally domesticated to serve their masters (the rulers). We then call this civilization because it serves the interests of the powerful. I'm playing a bit of devil's advocate, because I think you're wildly off-base on some of your claims.
There is still no civilization in Canada.
No idea who the 'Sentinelese' are, but this means they don't bother other people unless they're bothered, right?
You could say the same about non-,human wildlife. Leave them alone. Fuck the hiunting and trapping industries and every demon involved.