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If we imagine consciousness arises from unconscious matter, we face a hard problem; if we imagine an aspect of consciousness is present throughout the universe, ours becomes only a problem of degrees (m.youtube.com)
posted 1 year ago by Graphenium 1 year ago by Graphenium +25 / -0
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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Our bodies are composed of the same atoms and molecules as the sun. Why don't we make sunlight?!

The degree to which we understand nuclear processes and the degree to which we understand consciousness are literally multiple orders of magnitude off from each other.

Completely missing the point, which is that the same atoms and molecules arranged in different ways do drastically different things. The argument that “our brains have the same molecules as [any other thing], therefore [other thing] should be able to perform the functions of a brain” is vacuous. That was the point.

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– Graphenium [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Ironically, arguing that the “point” was that “atoms and molecules arranged in different ways do drastically different things” misses the point of the thread (funny how many of you there have been in that regard), which is that the materialist framework is fundamentally unable to explain conscious matter.

Sheldrake’s point stands firm. Musta just gone over your head. Did you watch/read any of his lectures or are you just going off the conversation in this sub thread, which is just people ignoring the videos and crying about the description of the videos with zero context.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It’s a direct response to an argument put forth in video description you posted:

But how can some forms of matter possess consciousness while others do not? After all, our brains are composed of the same atoms and molecules as the rest of the universe.

Responding to something you posted is hardly “missing the point of the thread.”

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– Graphenium [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

So you admit you have no theory as to how consciousness arises from unconscious matter? Where is the issue with Sheldrake’s observation?

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