Yeah, I haven't actually followed enough of the new stuff, I know I've seen some shades of "was the Sith really that bad?"

I guess my argument was more when it was new and not in George Lucas retrospective. There is tension in the original trilogy as a first time watcher, you expect good to win, but you don't know. Luke is about to be killed mere seconds before the destruction of the Death Star, and mere minutes before the end of the film. There's already been conflict and failure in the movie to keep you thinking, Obi Wan was killed, etc. It's so different from the "woo hoo, the hero is here to kick ass and chew bubblegum" from a Disney-Marvel. Of course with respect to Star Wars, if you've seen it a trillion times you know what will happen. But yeah, I didn't think it was the best example anyway, and it still pales in comparison to most of the Marvel stuff.