It's a hard problem and there's no good solution. The solution you're advocating for requires men to support financially support them which in turn requires the men (especially the betas) to be fed the lie that their leech err I mean wife actually gives a shit about them. Of course once you tell one lie you have to cover it up with more lies, like telling men that women don't really sex so the beta providers don't start asking inconvenient questions when their wives stop putting out. But then letting them work and vote has been a complete and utter disaster.
Anyway, regardless of where you stand on the morality/desirability of keeping women in the kitchen and perpetuating the necessary lies (I personally think it was necessary to keep civilization running even though the bachelors were always the smart ones) the cat is out of the bag. Thanks to feminism more and more men know how much women hate them, and seeing how Chad Thunderock gets treated makes them realize they're getting gyped in the betabux setup that 90% of them would be condemned to under the old system.
That's a fair argument but the current system isn't working for a lot of men either. Why should women be given the choice of which men they can and cannot like? Why don't we simply force women to do what we want them to or have them killed if they don't do what we want them to?
I'm not against that, but it would have to go a lot further than most (all?) societies did in the past did to ensure things work for men. I'm talking giving men the kind of power have over women that wives currently have over their husbands and making the death penalty mandatory for adultery. I simply don't think that's sustainable. Women and their simp enablers unleashed the demonic force we call feminism because they considered sitting on their asses and living off their husband's income "oppression" when they didn't have the absolute power over their husbands they have now. I just can't imagine flipping the script and not having white knights fuck the whole thing up within a couple generations.
A lot of people (and I'm not saying you're one of them) idolize the 50's and 60's as some kind of golden age for men. While it was at least functional because women couldn't impoverish their husbands on a whim, they did cuck and dead bedroom them on a regular basis because despite the lies that feminists will tell you men had very little power over their wives. Men were very often chained to a soulless parasite who despised them and stopped putting out a year into the marriage. These were miserable, miserable relationshits, which is why the evil whores these shmucks married turned divorce rape into a national sport the minute it was legalized.
Agreed. I would only advocate going to a society where women would be considered as nothing more than the property of a man with 0 personhood such that a husband could kill his wife on a moment's whim without any detriment from the law. Anything short of this would never be enough, imo
Agreed. Only men should be allowed to earn resources from work but if a man wishes for his woman to work he can have her work but he gets all the earnings from her work.
It's a hard problem and there's no good solution. The solution you're advocating for requires men to support financially support them which in turn requires the men (especially the betas) to be fed the lie that their leech err I mean wife actually gives a shit about them. Of course once you tell one lie you have to cover it up with more lies, like telling men that women don't really sex so the beta providers don't start asking inconvenient questions when their wives stop putting out. But then letting them work and vote has been a complete and utter disaster.
Anyway, regardless of where you stand on the morality/desirability of keeping women in the kitchen and perpetuating the necessary lies (I personally think it was necessary to keep civilization running even though the bachelors were always the smart ones) the cat is out of the bag. Thanks to feminism more and more men know how much women hate them, and seeing how Chad Thunderock gets treated makes them realize they're getting gyped in the betabux setup that 90% of them would be condemned to under the old system.
That's a fair argument but the current system isn't working for a lot of men either. Why should women be given the choice of which men they can and cannot like? Why don't we simply force women to do what we want them to or have them killed if they don't do what we want them to?
I'm not against that, but it would have to go a lot further than most (all?) societies did in the past did to ensure things work for men. I'm talking giving men the kind of power have over women that wives currently have over their husbands and making the death penalty mandatory for adultery. I simply don't think that's sustainable. Women and their simp enablers unleashed the demonic force we call feminism because they considered sitting on their asses and living off their husband's income "oppression" when they didn't have the absolute power over their husbands they have now. I just can't imagine flipping the script and not having white knights fuck the whole thing up within a couple generations.
A lot of people (and I'm not saying you're one of them) idolize the 50's and 60's as some kind of golden age for men. While it was at least functional because women couldn't impoverish their husbands on a whim, they did cuck and dead bedroom them on a regular basis because despite the lies that feminists will tell you men had very little power over their wives. Men were very often chained to a soulless parasite who despised them and stopped putting out a year into the marriage. These were miserable, miserable relationshits, which is why the evil whores these shmucks married turned divorce rape into a national sport the minute it was legalized.
Agreed. I would only advocate going to a society where women would be considered as nothing more than the property of a man with 0 personhood such that a husband could kill his wife on a moment's whim without any detriment from the law. Anything short of this would never be enough, imo
"But I don’t have to kill you. I don’t have to do anything, and I still get to watch you die! I find this most appealing!"
-G'Kar, Babylon 5
Agreed. Only men should be allowed to earn resources from work but if a man wishes for his woman to work he can have her work but he gets all the earnings from her work.