The old manosphere was great for comparing notes on what was going on. But the old red pill sites are mostly gone and have been replaced by a great deal of astro turf. Lately, I have noticed people aren't very friendly in public anymore. Asked around to some of the locals and they have told me no one goes out. Have to search to find people.
Also, I was talking with a younger dude who spends his summers going up to Alaska to work. I have known guys who have done that but didn't realize there was an extensive network of guys who do it. From what I gather a good chunk of these guys don't have wives or girlfriends, most are in their twenties but not all. The guy in question is tall, good looking, a very hard worker and a very nice guy. He made it sound like he didn't expect to get a girlfriend anytime soon, and didn't really expect to meet one. I have also known military guys who basically just dropped out of society and traveled. Also nice dudes. And then there was all the gym bros who dropped out after the Tiktok gals started harassing people at the local gyms.
How many young guys have just dropped out of society? I mean, all the dudes I cited are fit, good looking dudes. Just gone. It's hard to tell with the red pill videos as a good chunk of those guys are salesman selling their product, but how bad is it really now? Especially post covid. How many men just dropped out altogether? I'm getting the impression from this anecdotal evidence that it's getting worse, as there is always guys who drop out... But the majority didn't used to be dudes in their prime who were fit and good looking.
a lot of the good TRP stuff got drowned out by douchebags trying to make money off of it.... either in the form of life coach bullshit, or shock videos for ad money. the "female delusion calculator" video, where some dude dunks on a girl for ridiculous expectations of her partner, not even talking about looks or personality, is not even novel anymore. it's been overdone endlessly.
and then you look back at something like rational male, and you read through it, and it's right. then you look at rollo who is still bending over backwards with guest appearances on podcasts, and yet he looks like a little twerp who would get divorce raped.
the red pill went mainstream enough that low IQ morons just spouting "hold frame bruh!" and "just lift bro!" swamped the space. a lot more guys realized that by definition, TRP is saying those bottom 80% guys will get nothing, that if they cohort with women, it's a 99%+ probability they will be divorce raped. then of the remaining 20% of guys, most of them will still get divorce raped... so of course MGTOW is bigger than ever.