The nationalism of the UK confuses me. I used to be told by Englishmen that there is a difference between English and British. Only native Englishmen are English. British was anyone who had citizenship in the UK. This Ghana overstayer cannot be English by any definition, but apparently he's an illegal immigrant and not British either. Tommy is a joke. Yes the govt should not be wasting money on this guy vs. actual invaders - but that only supports the false narrative that the invasion is not intentional.
I don't like this ruling, particularly, but it's not that unusual, really.
It happens in Australia and NZ (and probably other Commonwealth countries) with a fair degree of regularity, and I believe I remember a similar case in Scotland a few years back.
Yes, it's shitty, but unlike, say, the Post Office scandal, I don't think the government is technically in the wrong, here. Morally is a different question, but technically and legally? I don't think the Government will lose this case...
Having said all that... even when you try to do things "the right way", it's still extraordinarily easy to get fucked over by the system.
I had that happen in Sweden, where migration system fuck-ups meant I never received my residency card, couldn't earn money or open a bank account, and then, when I decided to quit my study program, I was never informed how long I could remain in the country afterwards, so I was always on edge, lacking both that official "residency confirmation" and the knowledge of how many days I had left...
It's an awful situation to be in, from experience.
That sucks. I hope you got some Swedish pussy out of all that at least.
This Ghana fellow... I think he knew exactly what he was doing. I don't fault him for trying to live his best life, but he doesn't get to whine about it after the fact.
Honestly, that was one of the best aspects of the trip.
I (very temporarily) felt like a fucking boss, lol.
Also the Ukrainian girls, although obviously that... Comes with caution, lol.
But yeah, on your latter point, I completely agree. Even in 1977, I firmly do not believe that anyone (from Ghana, no less, and not a "skilled migrant", either) could arrive in the UK on a student visa and then "accidentally" just assume that they could remain there for life, now. I'm not naive enough to believe that as a "legitimate" mistake...
So yeah, sucks to be him, but he ran the risk of getting caught eventually, aaand then he was.
Somewhat similarly, I thought I was in trouble when leaving the Swedish border, because the customs official was confused by my lack of residency card, and the fact that i had been there for six months. But once I explained the situation (and corroborated it with the evidence I had on hand), he was totally fine with it.
Which, compared to the horrible threats I had received from the cult, when I left it, was a massive relief off my shoulders.
Which is to say that when you "play the game", the official system may or may not screw you over, but, by contrast, bad people will always try to take advantage of you, and cause you trouble when you don't play by their arbitrary rules...
Somewhat similarly, I thought I was in trouble when leaving the Swedish border, because the customs official was confused by my lack of residency card, and the fact that i had been there for six months.
I won't inquire as to details because I can probably guess with how fucked the bureaucracy is. When sorting shit out with my local council here in the UK they did a bit of strange fuckery with my addresses because of course it was my first ever property and I had moved out from my parents' place. I was genuinely surprised they had zero procedure for it as standard.
Luckily I had somebody who wasn't a dick on the other end of the phone and was understanding and had them write down some notes of what they did so that if anybody asks any questions it's written on the database because of course being a programmer I knew that shit would bite me in the arse potentially later on and had it sorted then so I wouldn't have to worry.
I'm sure you know by now but always keep records of correspondence because even if they record the damn phone calls the bastards can deny everything if it comes to even a minor dispute because they want to get rid of you. Just a general PSA really for anybody who is suddenly running into this stuff. It was interesting for me learning from AngryCops channel about how veterans whenever they were dealing with veterans affairs would always keep records of their correspondence and had a specific folder to deal with any bullshit in court which as it turns out yes is totally necessary. Civilians should absolutely do it as well especially as they pull more and more sneaky shit when they get even more corrupt than they are now.
If there's one thing modern technology has going for it is the surveillance state ironically can be pretty easily turned on government officials thanks to the accessibility of HD cameras among other things.
The nationalism of the UK confuses me. I used to be told by Englishmen that there is a difference between English and British. Only native Englishmen are English. British was anyone who had citizenship in the UK. This Ghana overstayer cannot be English by any definition, but apparently he's an illegal immigrant and not British either. Tommy is a joke. Yes the govt should not be wasting money on this guy vs. actual invaders - but that only supports the false narrative that the invasion is not intentional.
I don't like this ruling, particularly, but it's not that unusual, really.
It happens in Australia and NZ (and probably other Commonwealth countries) with a fair degree of regularity, and I believe I remember a similar case in Scotland a few years back.
Yes, it's shitty, but unlike, say, the Post Office scandal, I don't think the government is technically in the wrong, here. Morally is a different question, but technically and legally? I don't think the Government will lose this case...
Having said all that... even when you try to do things "the right way", it's still extraordinarily easy to get fucked over by the system.
I had that happen in Sweden, where migration system fuck-ups meant I never received my residency card, couldn't earn money or open a bank account, and then, when I decided to quit my study program, I was never informed how long I could remain in the country afterwards, so I was always on edge, lacking both that official "residency confirmation" and the knowledge of how many days I had left...
It's an awful situation to be in, from experience.
That sucks. I hope you got some Swedish pussy out of all that at least.
This Ghana fellow... I think he knew exactly what he was doing. I don't fault him for trying to live his best life, but he doesn't get to whine about it after the fact.
Can confirm I did, hahaha.
Honestly, that was one of the best aspects of the trip.
I (very temporarily) felt like a fucking boss, lol.
Also the Ukrainian girls, although obviously that... Comes with caution, lol.
But yeah, on your latter point, I completely agree. Even in 1977, I firmly do not believe that anyone (from Ghana, no less, and not a "skilled migrant", either) could arrive in the UK on a student visa and then "accidentally" just assume that they could remain there for life, now. I'm not naive enough to believe that as a "legitimate" mistake...
So yeah, sucks to be him, but he ran the risk of getting caught eventually, aaand then he was.
Somewhat similarly, I thought I was in trouble when leaving the Swedish border, because the customs official was confused by my lack of residency card, and the fact that i had been there for six months. But once I explained the situation (and corroborated it with the evidence I had on hand), he was totally fine with it.
Which, compared to the horrible threats I had received from the cult, when I left it, was a massive relief off my shoulders.
Which is to say that when you "play the game", the official system may or may not screw you over, but, by contrast, bad people will always try to take advantage of you, and cause you trouble when you don't play by their arbitrary rules...
I won't inquire as to details because I can probably guess with how fucked the bureaucracy is. When sorting shit out with my local council here in the UK they did a bit of strange fuckery with my addresses because of course it was my first ever property and I had moved out from my parents' place. I was genuinely surprised they had zero procedure for it as standard.
Luckily I had somebody who wasn't a dick on the other end of the phone and was understanding and had them write down some notes of what they did so that if anybody asks any questions it's written on the database because of course being a programmer I knew that shit would bite me in the arse potentially later on and had it sorted then so I wouldn't have to worry.
I'm sure you know by now but always keep records of correspondence because even if they record the damn phone calls the bastards can deny everything if it comes to even a minor dispute because they want to get rid of you. Just a general PSA really for anybody who is suddenly running into this stuff. It was interesting for me learning from AngryCops channel about how veterans whenever they were dealing with veterans affairs would always keep records of their correspondence and had a specific folder to deal with any bullshit in court which as it turns out yes is totally necessary. Civilians should absolutely do it as well especially as they pull more and more sneaky shit when they get even more corrupt than they are now.
If there's one thing modern technology has going for it is the surveillance state ironically can be pretty easily turned on government officials thanks to the accessibility of HD cameras among other things.