Being libertarian because you want to smoke pot versus not trusting a authority that has the power to ban it at the state/federal level. My aggravation since being a high schooler is how the former became the household definition, because the mode averaged person has an allergy to cynicism for some gods' forsaken reason. These naive idealists, coinciding with single-issue fuckwads, are so invirtuously useless for society that the proggie NPC has a point when he paints a libertarian as a social loser living in fantasies. Then we have anarcho-capitalism, a designation stemming from humans irresistible urge to subdivide into counterproductive tribes, to be divided and conquered by the outside culture. Any hypothetical minarchist state and ancapistan would be indistinguishable in practice.
Paleoconservative/paleolibertarian would be great brands if they weren't syllablistic vomit doomed to irrelevancy to the average Westerner. Would someone notable start a movement that isn't complete anathema to social marketing, but not so vague as to be amorphously inclusionary? I propose the axiomatic party. Principled yet without delusion, unique, and only slightly more grating to pronounce than "Democratic" or "Republican". I suggest taking a lesson out of Heinlein's History and Moral Philosophy class, sticking to uncomfortable, unambiguous social truths as a serious science. Of course the conditions in Starship Troopers were different, where hard men emerged out of truly hard times, and not bread and circuses limbo we're stuck in.
If my axiomatic ideal were attempted in my lif, neurotypes and grifters would just pervert the meaning like they did to liberalism. Principled will be confused with being a dense zealot. But really, libertarianism needs to rebrand.
Libertarianism does not equal pure anarchist open borders idiocy. Only idiots think that - that is what my first post was saying. A strong border is 100% necessary to the continued existence of a nation. You're confusing memetic stupidity from propaganda with what the principles are actually about, which is minimal government.
Tell that to the rest of them then, because you are in the minority of libertarians who get this.
Generally, explicitly right-wing libertarians support controlled borders. Center libertarians have done a lot of damage to whatever potential the movement had, with humanist positivity peddling and a lacking adherence to game theory both on platform (I.e. some in favor of special tax breaks that lobbyists make sure don't apply to small business) or in campaigning (ex. Jo bending the knee to BLM).
There are a minority of people who actually understand politics at all. The entire thread topic is someone being confused over the retarded contradiction that is the so-called "left-libertarian". The political compass popularized this decade is another horseshit tool used by morons and propagandists to confuse the public.
Also, I am not a libertarian. I understand that ideology, but disagree with it to a degree on it's optimistic interpretation of free markets, and have foreign policy disagreements with libertarian ideals.