No offense to anyone in the "movement," but the Red Pill as I understand it originally was great as a description of our times, horrible as a prescription. Understanding the true instinctive nature of women? Cool. Going out and spinning as many plates as possible? You're just making it worse for everyone else and setting yourself up for the same lonely childless existence as roasties.
I get the idea, to basically look out for number 1 in a time of social doom. It's not like there's a lot of good ideas out there. But the fact that the manosphere is now a bunch of hucksters fronting rented lambos and trying to pass off paid whores as a harem should not come as a surprise. Selfishness breeds hustlers.
Going out and spinning as many plates as possible? You're just making it worse for everyone else and setting yourself up for the same lonely childless existence as roasties.
I know someone who did this. He's getting married this summer.
Guys who are actually doing it typically get into a cycle.
1. It's awful to get started
2. It's fun for a while and the novelty is exciting
3. The novelty wears off and they start to realize that one vagina is not really different than another
4. The guy either leaves completely - or he finds a girl who's trying to make him happy, and realizes everything will be way more enjoyable to fuck someone who's waiting for him at home, than it would be to continue having to go out to the store every time he wants to fuck.
But the fact that the manosphere is now a bunch of hucksters fronting rented lambos and trying to pass off paid whores as a harem should not come as a surprise.
Most groups have this happen to them, the exceptions are work, and ones where well funded powerful people manipulate things to keep the group alive.
Good for him, but history shows getting married is just the start. The abysmal decline of marriage health in the boomer generation set us up for a lot of today's problems, and it can be hard to adjust from a life of self-interest. C.f. pair bonding rates declining with an increase in sexual partners. I wish him luck.
The red pill is "things are shit and here's the best you can do in this situation".
It's certainly not ideal but it's better than just sitting around inside bitching on the internet about things.
No offense to anyone in the "movement," but the Red Pill as I understand it originally was great as a description of our times, horrible as a prescription. Understanding the true instinctive nature of women? Cool. Going out and spinning as many plates as possible? You're just making it worse for everyone else and setting yourself up for the same lonely childless existence as roasties.
I get the idea, to basically look out for number 1 in a time of social doom. It's not like there's a lot of good ideas out there. But the fact that the manosphere is now a bunch of hucksters fronting rented lambos and trying to pass off paid whores as a harem should not come as a surprise. Selfishness breeds hustlers.
I know someone who did this. He's getting married this summer.
Guys who are actually doing it typically get into a cycle.
1. It's awful to get started
2. It's fun for a while and the novelty is exciting
3. The novelty wears off and they start to realize that one vagina is not really different than another
4. The guy either leaves completely - or he finds a girl who's trying to make him happy, and realizes everything will be way more enjoyable to fuck someone who's waiting for him at home, than it would be to continue having to go out to the store every time he wants to fuck.
Most groups have this happen to them, the exceptions are work, and ones where well funded powerful people manipulate things to keep the group alive.
Good for him, but history shows getting married is just the start. The abysmal decline of marriage health in the boomer generation set us up for a lot of today's problems, and it can be hard to adjust from a life of self-interest. C.f. pair bonding rates declining with an increase in sexual partners. I wish him luck.
I don't disagree it's just 2 different topics.
The red pill is "things are shit and here's the best you can do in this situation".
It's certainly not ideal but it's better than just sitting around inside bitching on the internet about things.