The argument that math and the complex symbol systems required by chemistry, physics, and so forth MUST have been existing out there in the ether
Is that not the obvious case? The universe developed for billions and billions of years according to these physical laws with no humans around to write them down symbolically. Simultaneously, these laws don’t physically “exist” in the sense that they aren’t written down anywhere. Protons aren’t labeled “this side up”, yet somehow the universe knows just how to proceed, in all respects.
Math, physics, chemistry are highly effective maps of the natural world, so effective you can make predictions about how some stuff will act or behave.
Can you think of anything “real” which can’t be explained/modeled by math? How could a mindless universe be so totally governed by something which is synonymous with mind? It’s (LITERALLY) illogical
And just so you know, this post isn’t suggesting any specific God over another, it’s about trying to find common ground where everyone can congregate to through logical argument, from where the discussion could branch off in many interesting directions
I can't think of anything. Human thought is mapped by language, and I suppose that involves some mathematical principles, so, yes . . . I just need to keep in mind Korzybski's adage, "The map is not the territory."
Is that not the obvious case? The universe developed for billions and billions of years according to these physical laws with no humans around to write them down symbolically. Simultaneously, these laws don’t physically “exist” in the sense that they aren’t written down anywhere. Protons aren’t labeled “this side up”, yet somehow the universe knows just how to proceed, in all respects.
Can you think of anything “real” which can’t be explained/modeled by math? How could a mindless universe be so totally governed by something which is synonymous with mind? It’s (LITERALLY) illogical
And just so you know, this post isn’t suggesting any specific God over another, it’s about trying to find common ground where everyone can congregate to through logical argument, from where the discussion could branch off in many interesting directions
I can't think of anything. Human thought is mapped by language, and I suppose that involves some mathematical principles, so, yes . . . I just need to keep in mind Korzybski's adage, "The map is not the territory."