Not the person you are responding to, but I appreciate the genuine and good faith response that doesn't resort to shit flinging.
First of all, the experts say thing. Is it untrue? As far as I know, it's just pure statistics, isn't it? Hasn't this study been reproduced?
I personally have no difficulty believing that statistic to be true. However "married men" artificially selects for men who have yet to be divorced raped, or cheated on, or have their kids taken from them. Statistically speaking, a good chunk of them are unknowingly hurtling towards that fate.
Also, is your goal in life purely to avoid suffering? Do you go outside? If so, why? Do you undergo any kind of painful experience such as exercise or work in oder to gain something later? If so, do you do this out of choice or because you're being coerced?
I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not a hedonist that only seeks to maximize pleasure and minimize suffering. I despise hedonism actually. But I think it is disingenuous to compare going outside and exercising to dealing with modern women.
The probability of something very bad happening to you from going outside is astronomically low. I don't think I need to explain how the probability of ending up divorce raped and only able to see your kids a couple times a month is orders of magnitude higher.
And exercise can be boiled down to a science. You input a predictable amount of strain and discomfort for a whole host of health benefits that have next to zero downside so long as you utilize proper form to avoid injury.
Regarding your view on women, exactly what do you mean by beta male? Are you a beta male, and as such are incapable of receiving the love of a woman?
This answer will vary by person. In my case, I have slightly above average looks, make well above average money for my age with good career prospects, and have good social skills. I am of average height though, so that alone makes me invisible to a huge chunk of women.
I dont consider myself a beta male, but I think when people complain about things like this, they are pointing at phenomena like the one I explained above. One superficial negative trait that shouldn't be a huge issue being blown out of proportion.
Personally, my issue is more on the opposite end though. Similar to what onetruephilosoraptor detailed above, you can meet thousands of women and find a handful that are true marriage material. And no, this isn't me being hypocritical and disqualifying huge swathes of the female population for superficial grievances. I'm talking huge personality flaws or similar things that might as well be the human equivalent of poison dart frogs loudly advertising their toxicity with bright colors.
Not the person you are responding to, but I appreciate the genuine and good faith response that doesn't resort to shit flinging.
I personally have no difficulty believing that statistic to be true. However "married men" artificially selects for men who have yet to be divorced raped, or cheated on, or have their kids taken from them. Statistically speaking, a good chunk of them are unknowingly hurtling towards that fate.
I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not a hedonist that only seeks to maximize pleasure and minimize suffering. I despise hedonism actually. But I think it is disingenuous to compare going outside and exercising to dealing with modern women.
The probability of something very bad happening to you from going outside is astronomically low. I don't think I need to explain how the probability of ending up divorce raped and only able to see your kids a couple times a month is orders of magnitude higher.
And exercise can be boiled down to a science. You input a predictable amount of strain and discomfort for a whole host of health benefits that have next to zero downside so long as you utilize proper form to avoid injury.
This answer will vary by person. In my case, I have slightly above average looks, make well above average money for my age with good career prospects, and have good social skills. I am of average height though, so that alone makes me invisible to a huge chunk of women.
I dont consider myself a beta male, but I think when people complain about things like this, they are pointing at phenomena like the one I explained above. One superficial negative trait that shouldn't be a huge issue being blown out of proportion.
Personally, my issue is more on the opposite end though. Similar to what onetruephilosoraptor detailed above, you can meet thousands of women and find a handful that are true marriage material. And no, this isn't me being hypocritical and disqualifying huge swathes of the female population for superficial grievances. I'm talking huge personality flaws or similar things that might as well be the human equivalent of poison dart frogs loudly advertising their toxicity with bright colors.