Person A: I support high levels of immigration.
Person B: Weren't you complaining about wages being too low? High levels of immigration directly impact wage growth in a negative way.
Person A: Yeah, but we don't have enough people to care for and replace baby boomers, so we need those immigrants.
Besides telling boomers to get rekt, what's your initial response?
Obviously, it's hypocritical to dissuade citizens from having children, and then turning around and saying we don't have enough people so we need more immigrants.
But I feel like I'm missing something here and can't quite put my finger on it.
It's important to always remember that leftists are materialists.
"But if we halt immigration, then GDP goes down, and then we have less money, and then we have less material things and comforts!"
Ok, even ignoring for a minute that that's not how it works, then ok. Yes. So what?
You can only win arguments against marxists by steering the conversation away from materialistic goals.
Are we in danger of starvation? No? Then material goods are immaterial.
The goal isn't creating a world with more consoomtion or even material comfort, the goal is safety, community, and high trust.
Tell them that if they can point to a diverse society that is as safe, with the same sense of community, belonging, solidarity, compassion, and trust as places like Japan or Norway - then sure, ok, let's do that then. But until they can, kindly shut the fuck up.