I've been through this process at my place of work (corporate IT), and the most effective advocates were the feminist men talking to and educating the non feminist men. There has to be a full programme of education to effect change, but having people that anti feminist men respect (i.e other men) as part of your programme is key, otherwise the message just won't go in
Duh, in a men's only space you can call out a faggot for parroting faggy ideas and get laughs from your colleagues without the snarkness from danger glasses wearing women.
Hahaha I have trouble believing “feminist men” make headway against “anti feminist men.” I mean, I’m not ragingly anti-feminist I don’t think, just kind of… “not feminist” and I’ll call a faggot a faggot because I’m a guy and we’re ruthless with each other. In part because MOST of us can take it. Like, I don’t think I’d sit there and try to pound my chest and refute every point and shout over the feminist semi-man. I’d just sit there, hear his entire spiel, and then say “…sounds gay” and move on with my day. Some dude who wanted to fight the feminist on his points would have him in tears.
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Duh, in a men's only space you can call out a faggot for parroting faggy ideas and get laughs from your colleagues without the snarkness from danger glasses wearing women.
Hahaha I have trouble believing “feminist men” make headway against “anti feminist men.” I mean, I’m not ragingly anti-feminist I don’t think, just kind of… “not feminist” and I’ll call a faggot a faggot because I’m a guy and we’re ruthless with each other. In part because MOST of us can take it. Like, I don’t think I’d sit there and try to pound my chest and refute every point and shout over the feminist semi-man. I’d just sit there, hear his entire spiel, and then say “…sounds gay” and move on with my day. Some dude who wanted to fight the feminist on his points would have him in tears.