Its just so frustrating. Because he should be able to take the nuanced position of "yeah Trump fucked up X, Y, Z etc, as such I do not want him to run and will not vote for him. However, I can still acknowledge the fortifying that went on in 2020." But he literally can't. Because it would be seen as some sort of moral victory for orange man or something? I dont even know.
How is Governor Kemp responsible for state legislatures in every swing states allowing mass mail in ballots using COVID as an excuse?
Kemp certified the election in his state because the Trump campaign had no hard evidence to show regarding mass mail in ballot fraud.
There is especially no evidence to support the claims that Sydney Powell and Lin Wood made regarding Dominion machines being used to steal the election.
The reality is that the left was able to use mail in ballot rule changes to flood the zone with mail in ballots.
I know what happened in 2020 and it could have been entirely prevented had Trump not allowed Fauci to lockdown and if Trump had a better legal team that fought to prevent the mail in ballot changes from taking place before the election.
The lockdowns allowed swing state legislatures the cover to push mass mail in ballot rule changes.
What you call "stealing the election" is unfortunately technically legal thanks to the lack of election integrity regarding mail in ballots.
It is absurd that signature verification and voter id is not even present in all of the swing states.
I definitely acknowledge there are improvements needed to improve election integrity.
If only we had good candidates in 2022 who could have won governor races in AZ, WI, MI and PA.
Thanks to Trump endorsing shit candidates in those states, nothing has changed with regards to election integrity in those states.
What happened in the 2020 election is unfortunately wholly legal since swing states have pisspoor election integrity measures.
We need to win elections to make our future elections secure.
Trump is not going to be able to win a national election in 2024.
How is Governor Kemp responsible for state legislatures in every swing states allowing mass mail in ballots using COVID as an excuse?
No one implied he is responsible for things outside of his state. But his state was one of the worst, and he didn't even try to pretend to give a shit about it. Oh, the pipe burst and they had to stop counting for the night? No one with an IQ above room temperature actually believes that, and Kemp let it happen, probably because he was in on the joke.
There is especially no evidence to support the claims that Sydney Powell and Lin Wood made regarding Dominion machines being used to steal the election.
I never implied there was. I was never a fan of those theories because they served as a distraction from the actual issues.
The reality is that the left was able to use mail in ballot rule changes to flood the zone with mail in ballots.
That is a big part of it, but a huge portion of the fraud came in the form of signature verification. Percentage of rejected signatures tanked in certain key areas enough to move the needle. The people facilitating the process on the ground know the ballots with non matching signatures are more likely to be voting D. There's a reason dems were more than happy to let people inspect the voting machines, but fought tooth and nail to prevent signature audits. The only small scale signature audit of the 2020 election that I know of in Arizona revealed fraudulent signatures occurring at a rate multiple times what would have swayed the results
I know what happened in 2020 and it could have been entirely prevented had Trump not allowed Fauci to lockdown and if Trump had a better legal team that fought to prevent the mail in ballot changes from taking place before the election.
You're not wrong there. Entirely prevented is a bit much, but there's a good chance prevented enough to change the result.
The lockdowns allowed swing state legislatures the cover to push mass mail in ballot rule changes.
One of the major issues is that the legislature is not what authorized a lot of the changes that allowed shenanigans to take place. Constitutionally that is how it is supposed to happen, but that is not what happened in many places.
What you call "stealing the election" is unfortunately technically legal thanks to the lack of election integrity regarding mail in ballots.
Anything that is approved by Congress and sanctioned by the courts is technically legal from a process standpoint. That says nothing about whether anything untoward did or did not happen, and whether more could have been done to prevent it if it did.
Thanks to Trump endorsing shit candidates in those states, nothing has changed with regards to election integrity in those states.
Kari Lake was an amazing candidate. PA there was never any chance to win. Both of those states are still heavily fortified. Lake got screwed even more blatantly than orange man.
Trump is not going to be able to win a national election in 2024.
Much to your chagrin we will likely get to see whether or not that is true. Barring major medical trouble.
She purposely alienated McCain voters and even told them to get the hell out at one of her rallies instead of trying to get as many votes as possible.
She could have won despite the election day Maricopa issues if only she didn't push away many center right voters.
Why would you ever tell people not to vote for you and demonize a dead politician even if you hated him?
She had good communication skills but she unfortunately had absolutely terrible political sense.
She also leaned way too hard into Trump worship. That infamous picture of her vacuuming a rug that Trump would stand on before Trump arrived to one of her rallies devastated her appeal to independents.
Kari Lake is the prime example of pure wasted talent. She could have won despite the election day shenanigans had she just done a few things differently.
She has since destroyed her future political career by going full "stop the steal" grifter mode where she still gives her supporters false hope that the courts will somehow allow a redo of the election.
She has also gone full Trump cultist and spread blatant lies that Soros somehow endorsed Governor DeSantis.
Lake is one of the most obnoxious figures in the GOP these days.
I pray she never wins a primary again for any office again in Arizona so we won't throw more winnable races away.
Being a shittier candidate just for muh electability purposes is not a winning play long term. The overton window needs to shift. Having candidates like her who say the right shit and tell the right people to fuck off is exactly what we need. And the fact remains that she wins barring election shenanigans.
She has since destroyed her future political career by going full "stop the steal" grifter mode where she still gives her supporters false hope that the courts will somehow allow a redo of the election.
She is set for life regardless of what she does. Saying what she is doing is grifting is just you going out of your way to interpret it in that manner. Fighting election integrity battles is a very uphill battle. I'm not over here saying she will be instated as governor, but continuing to keep the issue in the news is important. Continuing to wage legal battle is important. Footage from her case has been the most effective thing when it comes to getting through to my family members that try to pretend no shenanigans are afoot. As blatant as it is, we are still at the part where we need to spread awareness.
I recognize your username as having been here and on reddit for a while, so I will generally defend you when people accuse you of being a shill. But when you pull this "I pray good candidates don't win primaries because they are less likely to win, I would rather have a more milquetoast loser win because they are more electable" shit, it is not hard to see why people call you a shill so often. DeSantis is a bit of an exception, because he has been such a good governor, that at least one can reason that if he does a similar job as president then we could expect him to do a good job. But I dont think anyone is under any similar impressions that the alternatives running in most GOP Governor or senator primaries are similarly solid.
Its just so frustrating. Because he should be able to take the nuanced position of "yeah Trump fucked up X, Y, Z etc, as such I do not want him to run and will not vote for him. However, I can still acknowledge the fortifying that went on in 2020." But he literally can't. Because it would be seen as some sort of moral victory for orange man or something? I dont even know.
How is Governor Kemp responsible for state legislatures in every swing states allowing mass mail in ballots using COVID as an excuse?
Kemp certified the election in his state because the Trump campaign had no hard evidence to show regarding mass mail in ballot fraud.
There is especially no evidence to support the claims that Sydney Powell and Lin Wood made regarding Dominion machines being used to steal the election.
The reality is that the left was able to use mail in ballot rule changes to flood the zone with mail in ballots.
I know what happened in 2020 and it could have been entirely prevented had Trump not allowed Fauci to lockdown and if Trump had a better legal team that fought to prevent the mail in ballot changes from taking place before the election.
The lockdowns allowed swing state legislatures the cover to push mass mail in ballot rule changes.
What you call "stealing the election" is unfortunately technically legal thanks to the lack of election integrity regarding mail in ballots.
It is absurd that signature verification and voter id is not even present in all of the swing states.
I definitely acknowledge there are improvements needed to improve election integrity.
If only we had good candidates in 2022 who could have won governor races in AZ, WI, MI and PA.
Thanks to Trump endorsing shit candidates in those states, nothing has changed with regards to election integrity in those states.
What happened in the 2020 election is unfortunately wholly legal since swing states have pisspoor election integrity measures.
We need to win elections to make our future elections secure.
Trump is not going to be able to win a national election in 2024.
No one implied he is responsible for things outside of his state. But his state was one of the worst, and he didn't even try to pretend to give a shit about it. Oh, the pipe burst and they had to stop counting for the night? No one with an IQ above room temperature actually believes that, and Kemp let it happen, probably because he was in on the joke.
I never implied there was. I was never a fan of those theories because they served as a distraction from the actual issues.
That is a big part of it, but a huge portion of the fraud came in the form of signature verification. Percentage of rejected signatures tanked in certain key areas enough to move the needle. The people facilitating the process on the ground know the ballots with non matching signatures are more likely to be voting D. There's a reason dems were more than happy to let people inspect the voting machines, but fought tooth and nail to prevent signature audits. The only small scale signature audit of the 2020 election that I know of in Arizona revealed fraudulent signatures occurring at a rate multiple times what would have swayed the results
You're not wrong there. Entirely prevented is a bit much, but there's a good chance prevented enough to change the result.
One of the major issues is that the legislature is not what authorized a lot of the changes that allowed shenanigans to take place. Constitutionally that is how it is supposed to happen, but that is not what happened in many places.
Anything that is approved by Congress and sanctioned by the courts is technically legal from a process standpoint. That says nothing about whether anything untoward did or did not happen, and whether more could have been done to prevent it if it did.
Kari Lake was an amazing candidate. PA there was never any chance to win. Both of those states are still heavily fortified. Lake got screwed even more blatantly than orange man.
Much to your chagrin we will likely get to see whether or not that is true. Barring major medical trouble.
Lake was a shitty candidate for a few reasons.
She purposely alienated McCain voters and even told them to get the hell out at one of her rallies instead of trying to get as many votes as possible.
She could have won despite the election day Maricopa issues if only she didn't push away many center right voters.
Why would you ever tell people not to vote for you and demonize a dead politician even if you hated him?
She had good communication skills but she unfortunately had absolutely terrible political sense.
She also leaned way too hard into Trump worship. That infamous picture of her vacuuming a rug that Trump would stand on before Trump arrived to one of her rallies devastated her appeal to independents.
Kari Lake is the prime example of pure wasted talent. She could have won despite the election day shenanigans had she just done a few things differently.
She has since destroyed her future political career by going full "stop the steal" grifter mode where she still gives her supporters false hope that the courts will somehow allow a redo of the election.
She has also gone full Trump cultist and spread blatant lies that Soros somehow endorsed Governor DeSantis.
Lake is one of the most obnoxious figures in the GOP these days.
I pray she never wins a primary again for any office again in Arizona so we won't throw more winnable races away.
Being a shittier candidate just for muh electability purposes is not a winning play long term. The overton window needs to shift. Having candidates like her who say the right shit and tell the right people to fuck off is exactly what we need. And the fact remains that she wins barring election shenanigans.
She is set for life regardless of what she does. Saying what she is doing is grifting is just you going out of your way to interpret it in that manner. Fighting election integrity battles is a very uphill battle. I'm not over here saying she will be instated as governor, but continuing to keep the issue in the news is important. Continuing to wage legal battle is important. Footage from her case has been the most effective thing when it comes to getting through to my family members that try to pretend no shenanigans are afoot. As blatant as it is, we are still at the part where we need to spread awareness.
I recognize your username as having been here and on reddit for a while, so I will generally defend you when people accuse you of being a shill. But when you pull this "I pray good candidates don't win primaries because they are less likely to win, I would rather have a more milquetoast loser win because they are more electable" shit, it is not hard to see why people call you a shill so often. DeSantis is a bit of an exception, because he has been such a good governor, that at least one can reason that if he does a similar job as president then we could expect him to do a good job. But I dont think anyone is under any similar impressions that the alternatives running in most GOP Governor or senator primaries are similarly solid.