The cowardly police force who did jack shit in Uvalde are now claiming the shooter had a "battle rifle," and the libs can't decide what retarded angle to take. They seem split between a few choices. Ironically, "ACAB" is the least objectionable when it comes to gun rights.
The other options are "hahaha, myth of good guy with gun busted," which ignores that at least these cops were bastards, and my favorite "hahaha, and they said there was no such thing as a battle rifle!" which ignores that...well, it ignores a fuckton.
There is a battle rifle. But the shooter didn't have one. The cops are just absolute retards. Everyone is spinning up over a comment by, and giving credence to, the people who fucked up in every way imaginable.
For a few examples:
"AR-15s" is trending on Twitter. Always a good time.
My favorite Reddit comments are the idiots saying they know a lot about guns, but all of them get it wrong. Calling M16s battle rifles. Talking about 5.56 vs 9mm penetration while ignoring tumbling. Acting like anyone ever claimed that there was no such thing as a battle rifle. The whole thing is amazing. The biggest mistake aside from their general ignorance, is taking the lying Uvalde cops at their word about 'battle rifles' and armor piercing capabilities, or that the existence of rifle could sensibly result in the tactical holdoff of a freaking army of (allegedly) trained law enforcement officers.
Here's a good one:
The gunnit line for years has been "AR-15 isn't an assault rifle, it isn't a military weapon, it's chambered for the same rounds as a handgun, it's a peashooter, it's harmless" apparently they don't believe that bullshit themselves and boy howdy am I not surprised.
For the first part, it's not an assault rifle, it's not military, and I've never heard the other load of nonsense. And then they finish by, once again, giving credence to a bunch of losers who stood around while kids were murdered. Yeah, I'll take their opinion on anything with a grain of salt.
Basically, Uvalde cops are shit, anti-gunners know they're shit, but will still believe their lies wholesale if it means they can hate on guns. Disgusting. And stupid, very stupid.
Debating gun control is simultaneously amusing and depressing. Depressing because, as you say, they're emotionally wrapped up, and can't be reached logically, so you'll never have a meaningful discussion. Best you can hope for is to convince a few undecided people watching the discussion, but you're still just talking to a brick wall, which is pretty frustrating.
Amusing because anti-gunners are some of the most ignorant people around, so "winning" arguments against them is easy and hilarious. It just doesn't matter, because the two debaters are playing with different rules. Still funny, though.
For what its worth 20 years ago I was that annoying twat who was 100% pro gun control, but have since done a complete 180. The reasoning that finally got to me was realising that a society works much better when people are encouraged to take responsibility for their own safety and of their community, so why then should law abiding citizens be denied access to the most effective tool for self defense? Also the lie that Australia is completely gun free yet there are guns everywhere you look: they are just being held by cops.
this.
make sure that they understand... confiscation will require use of force, and if tyrants are declaring that society is going that far, everyone from politicians to cops to supporters of gun confiscation will all be hunted for sport.
private firearm ownership in the US is bigger than all militaries on the planet combined.
There are more effective tactics.
"I agree. If a man is trying to rape a woman she shouldn't have access to a gun to defend herself. What if she hurt him?"
Take some indefensible stance about a realistic scenario. Checkmate. Either they realize their stance is retarded and needs to be backpedaled, or they stick to their guns (no pun intended) and announce to everyone they are immoral rapist enablers.
I use a similar tactic with abortion debates. It's hilarious and pisses off lefties. Ask me how!