Why are these people so weirdly obsessed with trans people? I’ve been alive 40 years and only met two, they were perfectly nice to be around and didn’t start any shit. I just don’t get the hate, let people be themselves so long as they don’t hurt others. You hurt no one be by being trans.
This person is almost close to realization. Yup, through most of my life I saw basically no trans people. Yesterday I saw 6-8 at once. A gaggle of some of ugliest men I've ever seen, pretending to be women in public. I see pronoun people on the regular. It didn't used to be that way. Something has changed, and that's worth talking about. And they are hurting people, since they're coming after children now.
First it's like people say "well don't rub your lifestyle in my face!" Which is dumb and is going to be an argument no matter what bathroom anyone uses.
I literally don't didn't care what you do in the privacy of your own home. Now I do a bit out of spite, and because these people may literally be demons. But if they'd just kept to themselves, and left the kids alone, this wouldn't be an issue. I have no issue with 0.1% of people feeling like they don't match up with their sex. None. That happens, and it's been happening throughout human history. I damn sure have a problem with normalizing it though, and I think that's extremely harmful. I have a problem with it being intentionally spread to impressionable people. If you go to a therapist or psychologist (big mistake, but that's a separate topic), and say you don't feel like a man/woman...their job is to sort your mental state out...not your physical state. Blanket "acceptance" of "trans identity" is just as harmful as blanket acceptance of anything else unhealthy.
But then these same people go in search of LGBTQ+ safe spaces to invade and become violent. Like no one was rubbing it in your face when they were in a nightclub minding their own damn business.
Holy strawman, batmaam. At first I thought it was just an accusation that people are violent towards the transes, and I was going to say I've never done that, and don't know anyone who has. But it's actually apparently referencing nightclub shootings. Although I'm not sure if they're talking about the Muslim shooter, or the "non-binary" shooter. But yeah, way to go from 0-60 from this poster.
Why can't Trans people even exist?
This is such a stupid argument, and I hear it all the time. Trans people clearly can and do exist and, for the most part, they're either left alone or encouraged. You've got a few people who say "mean" stuff on the internet, that's about it.
This here I’ve never got the bathroom problem, there isn’t a bouncer no one is stopping anyone. Just make them all unisex. what rational person gives a shit?
I know it's not exactly the same, since they're (not yet) legalizing rape or murder (except maybe in Chicago or whatever), but this argument is like saying "I don't get why they have to make murder illegal, it's not like there a cop on every corner; no one is stopping anyone. Just let people be." No; we live in a society (bottom text), and the tone you set affects a wider range of things than that individual issue. Having men's and women's bathrooms is fine, even if it's on the honor system. And if weird men start invading the women's bathrooms and someone wants to change the laws to stop that...that's not really a crusade by "anti-trans bigots," that's a direct reaction to changing circumstances.
No they don't. Mentally ill people exist, and grooming victims exist. No one in the history of human civilization has been a transexual. There have been some people who have found it convenient to dress and act as a member of the opposite sex, but their actual biological sex is and was immutable and unchanging.
Chill. I'm not saying they've changed their sex, or that biological sex isn't real, or that trans people are right about everything, or anything like that. I'm saying gender-confused people exist. They should get help instead of embracing it as their identity, but "trans people" in the colloquial certainly exist.
No way is me saying trans people exist conceding to their every point. I'm certainly not saying trans women are women or something. "Trans" is an identifier they have chosen, and it's as good a phrase as any to use. Have they literally changed anything? No.
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This person is almost close to realization. Yup, through most of my life I saw basically no trans people. Yesterday I saw 6-8 at once. A gaggle of some of ugliest men I've ever seen, pretending to be women in public. I see pronoun people on the regular. It didn't used to be that way. Something has changed, and that's worth talking about. And they are hurting people, since they're coming after children now.
I literally
don'tdidn't care what you do in the privacy of your own home. Now I do a bit out of spite, and because these people may literally be demons. But if they'd just kept to themselves, and left the kids alone, this wouldn't be an issue. I have no issue with 0.1% of people feeling like they don't match up with their sex. None. That happens, and it's been happening throughout human history. I damn sure have a problem with normalizing it though, and I think that's extremely harmful. I have a problem with it being intentionally spread to impressionable people. If you go to a therapist or psychologist (big mistake, but that's a separate topic), and say you don't feel like a man/woman...their job is to sort your mental state out...not your physical state. Blanket "acceptance" of "trans identity" is just as harmful as blanket acceptance of anything else unhealthy.Holy strawman, batmaam. At first I thought it was just an accusation that people are violent towards the transes, and I was going to say I've never done that, and don't know anyone who has. But it's actually apparently referencing nightclub shootings. Although I'm not sure if they're talking about the Muslim shooter, or the "non-binary" shooter. But yeah, way to go from 0-60 from this poster.
This is such a stupid argument, and I hear it all the time. Trans people clearly can and do exist and, for the most part, they're either left alone or encouraged. You've got a few people who say "mean" stuff on the internet, that's about it.
I know it's not exactly the same, since they're (not yet) legalizing rape or murder (except maybe in Chicago or whatever), but this argument is like saying "I don't get why they have to make murder illegal, it's not like there a cop on every corner; no one is stopping anyone. Just let people be." No; we live in a society (bottom text), and the tone you set affects a wider range of things than that individual issue. Having men's and women's bathrooms is fine, even if it's on the honor system. And if weird men start invading the women's bathrooms and someone wants to change the laws to stop that...that's not really a crusade by "anti-trans bigots," that's a direct reaction to changing circumstances.
No they don't. Mentally ill people exist, and grooming victims exist. No one in the history of human civilization has been a transexual. There have been some people who have found it convenient to dress and act as a member of the opposite sex, but their actual biological sex is and was immutable and unchanging.
Chill. I'm not saying they've changed their sex, or that biological sex isn't real, or that trans people are right about everything, or anything like that. I'm saying gender-confused people exist. They should get help instead of embracing it as their identity, but "trans people" in the colloquial certainly exist.
No way is me saying trans people exist conceding to their every point. I'm certainly not saying trans women are women or something. "Trans" is an identifier they have chosen, and it's as good a phrase as any to use. Have they literally changed anything? No.
No. I'm not giving an inch on that front. They're not across from anything.