Pro Gamer Compounds - JonTron
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edit: lol I'm stupid and forgot to mention what game I'm talking about, League of Legends. This whole comment is in the context of League of Legends, my bad.
Sure but NA players aren't going to beat Koreans at being grindy robots. That's what's annoying about it, back when I understood the game because it was actually worth playing, the way the Koreans played was really dumb, just they played their dumb strategies better than anyone else could. Instead of trying to adapt to counter how Koreans played they just copied them because like I said, NA players are completely incapable of thinking for themselves.
In the 2011-2013 era there was so much shit you could do with a lot of heroes/builds that no one used because they were too busy talking about how OP kAssadin was and shit. The entire community was just a huge circle jerk about insane shit that had very little bearing in the actual game.
Everyone basically had this idea that the top players of best regions were like these sages who just figured everything out and if you didn't just do what they did, you were bad. People would actually say shit like "if you don't see it in LCS, don't play it", and that's not even copying Koreans at that point, LCS was the NA circuit lol. Playing that game was like living in an intellectual dark age, at least irl you can find people who know which way's up if you know where to look.
I miss the days of building AP Sejuani mid and having my whole team raging at me and threatening to leave, then utterly destroying the lane because there's fucking nothing most mid picks can do against a wall of hitpoints that can just bully them into cowering under their tower.
I never played Sejuani but that is the kind of thing I was talking about and you mentioned specifically something that made so many characters broken that no one capitalized on because they didn't understand how to build: utilizing a superior health pool.
You remember those specialized jungle items that were like blue that built out of the jungle machete? The attack damage one that gave a true damage burn?
Mid Kha'Zix, that stupid blue true-damage burn thing (it gave like a stupid amount of AD for 2000 gold with some CDR and the burn) and a sunfire cloak. You could practically walk into people and auto/Q them down and they couldn't do shit to you, let along if you actually used your abilities intelligently.
That was around the 2013 era, was the best era imo. Looking it up Kha'Zix and Sejuani both came out in 2012 lol.
I bailed on the game some time in 2015. I've tried to go back once or twice since then, but it feels like Overwatch - overproduced. Full of changes that didn't need to be made, that nobody asked for.
That and the censoring of the female designs, holy shit.
Yeah their design philosophy is absolutely terrible. They basically made it as hard as possible to actually fight your opponent while emphasizing their gay objectives and wave clearing.
All the good heroes that were good at actually playing the game like a PvP game were nerfed into irrelevance or reworked and all their new champs after like 2014 were made that way by default.
It's probably the player's fault more than anything else, ever since active patching became a thing and people know devs will cave if there's enough pressure there's this prevailing culture of bitching about every little thing you don't like that everything interesting or impactful ends up sterilized until there's literally nothing to coherently complain about because everyone's so short of individual agency at that point.