I know I need to get off of FB but I got this in a Star Wars EU group I'm in and I simply asked the guy who posted it if he thinks he is saying something important? I definitely noticed a big change within the past years in certain fandoms so that isn't just my imagination. But anyways, how would y'all respond and since this is a common thing about current woke "fans" is there anything to rebut this? I know Eric July did a video a while back in regards to comic books.
Forever taking risks since TOS. FOR THE UNEDUCATED. • X-Men is about civil rights. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get X-Men. • Black Panther is about civil rights. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Black Panther. • Captain America literally fought nazis. He is the embodiment of fighting the alt-right. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Captain America. • The Empire in Star Wars is fascist. The Rebel alliance are Anti-Fascist. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Star Wars. • Doctor Who was about an alien fighting for all of humanity in spite of totalitarian regimes. If you don't get that, you don't get Doctor Who. • The Punisher isn’t meant to be a role model for police or armed forces. So much so that the writers of The Punisher made him actively speak out against it in a comic. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get The Punisher. • Deadpool is queer. He’s pansexual. Fact. If you didn’t get that you didn’t get Deadpool. • Star Trek is about equality for all genders, races and sexualities. As early as the mid-60s it was taking a pro-choice stance and defending women’s right to choose. One of its clearest themes is accepting different cultures and appearances and working together for peace. (It’s also anti-capitalist and pro-vegan). If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Star Trek. • Superman and Wonder Woman (and a whole host of other superheroes) are immigrants. The stance of those comics is pro-immigration and pro-equality and acceptance. If you didn’t get that, you didn’t get Superman or Wonder Woman. • Stan Lee said, “Racism and bigotry are among the deadliest social ills plaguing the world today.” If you’re bigoted or racist, you didn’t get any of the characters Stan Lee created. • The stories we grew up with all taught us to value other people and cultures and to treasure the differences between us. Only villains were xenophobic, or sexist, or racist, or totalitarian. I can’t understand how anyone can have missed that. • If you’re upset that there’s a black Spider-Man, or a black Captain America, or a female Thor, or that Ms. Marvel is Muslim, or that Captain Marvel was pro-feminism or any of the other things right-wing “fans” say is “stealing their childhood” - you never got it in the first place. The things you claim are now “pandering to the lefties” were never on your side, to begin with. If you consider yourself a fan of these things, but you still think the LGBTQ+ community is too “in your face”, or have a problem with Black Lives Matter, or want to “take the country back from immigrants”, then you’re not really a fan at all. Geek culture isn’t suddenly left-wing... it always was. You just grew up to be intolerant. You became the villain in the stories you used to love.
You can say no it wasn’t. with X-men at least you have Stan Lee, the creator, saying himself that he wanted to create a new superhero team but was tired of coming up with new origin stories so he made them all born that way. The stories in older comics like that are also incredibly simple. There is an issue of the X-men, either 9 or 12 I can’t remember, where it’s literally, “ hey look the avengers” and then they fight and then at the end they stop fighting for as little reason as they started and they go their separate ways. And that’s the plot of the book. Absolutely no message at all other than look at our 2 elite teams of hero’s fight. Original comics weren’t woke.
They like to point at early captain America comics fighting Nazis. Problem is those were real Nazis and in the Cold War he fought communist. Ironman fought the Vietcong. Those early books were written and sent to soldiers as entertainment and as morale boosts not as a tool of calling whoever would be challenging FDR as the devil.
Actual history is on your side of the argument not whatever they decide to attach to it.
Yea I remember Eric July playing an interview with Stan Lee debunking that view of the x-men. Also I don’t think Captain America would stand by while ppl destroy property in the name of “justice”
Certainly not looting and burning markets that have literally nothing to do with the "injustice" they are supposedly "protesting" about.
Some of it was was straight up war propaganda. Popeye is a good example. I'm not sure if and Action or Marvel comics were.
I think Superman and captain America was too at first.