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Climate lies explained in 1 chart (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by NotAGlowy 2 years ago by NotAGlowy +36 / -3
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– Gizortnik 5 points 2 years ago +16 / -11

This is possibly one of the dumbest boomer memes I've seen.

Generally, Climate Change is talking about large scale system-level threats. Now, I'm willing to bet there might be some Watermellons talking about stupid unrelated shit like that weird insulation movement in Britain, but I don't ever really here anyone who actually knows anything about the climate talking about heat deaths.

My link didn't come up with anything: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)62113-0/fulltext

I'm not really clear about these numbers, or how they would be effected by Covid, because that doesn't seem relevant.

I would say that Heat Stroke is far more dangerous than freezing because it can come out of absolutely no where if you haven't been properly drinking water, and by the time you're effected by it, you are effectively too incapacitated to cool yourself off.

Heat waves have a nasty habit of killing a lot of people when people aren't ready for it. I think one infamous case in the 1970's lead to the deaths of nearly 150 people in the city of Chicago as the heat got too much for elderly people in tenement buildings, and electrical demand caused grids to fail, creating a loss of AC for entire buildings worth of people. This then caused hundreds to die.

It's possible that Spain is much more used & prepared to deal with extreme temperatures, as they have a culture that's been dealing with it for over 1000 years. On of the reasons Siestas exist is because you really do have to stop working if the temperature in the afternoon has climbed to 125 F. This is effectively like a cultural defense mechanism. Similar to how, I'm not kidding, the Romans discovered pants being used by barbarians in the north of Europe. When living in cold, wet, forested, hilly, climates: pants are preferable to togas and robes.

By contrast, when you're not prepared for a cold snap (like Texas wasn't), you could end up with all sorts of additional problems that even northern states don't face, like damaged infrastructure that wasn't properly insulated for cold temperatures.

In fact, someone who is a climate activist could completely turn this graph around on you and point out that the issue is about changing climates, not just that literally every spot on the earth is always going to be warmer. They would tell you, accurately, that no one actually claims this as an effect of climate change.

Thing is, this graph and source don't make any sense, so I can't point anything out about this.

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– yamez 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

this is better than the meme above: http://petitionproject.org/index.php

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– Gizortnik -2 points 2 years ago +1 / -3

That's still a misstating of the problem. Fucking increased plant growth is part of Climate Change. For example, we've actually seen Plant Migration as growing areas have shifted over the earth because their climates have changed.

Now how catastrophic are the changes in climate? Well, the Earth has no issues, but humans will have problems as this is going to dramatically change where and what is grown on our farms, and it may also make some cities rather untenable depending on the resulting economic shifts.

Not to mention there are serious concerns about how that change in food production might effect food and water prices, along with the potential to cause migrations (both internally and internationally).

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– yamez 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Come on, man. The climate in the fucking 1100's was quite a bit warmer than it is now. And yet people lived in all the same places and managed just fine. The medieval warm period was VERY warm in comparison to what we are used to right now and yet there is no evidence of mass migration, city destruction and extinction. The Roman Warm period was also quite a bit warmer than it is now, a whole 2 degrees, and it is ALSO not associated with the end of civilization. Quite the opposite. Stop fear mongering.

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– Gizortnik -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

I didn't say it was going to end civilization. Frankly, thanks to interconnected economies, the collapse of civilizations is less likely than it was in those previous periods. Climate Change has played a role in other earlier civilizations which couldn't respond to climactic shifts, but thankfully technology allows us to respond much faster.

However, that doesn't mean that we won't continue to see price shocks, rural displacement, rural poverty, the depopulation of some cities, and refugee crises. Highly centralized systems don't respond well to shocks. That's the point.

Climate Change is a bigger economic threat than Globalism is, and the Leftist systems that controlled the industrial heartland of America turned into The Rust Belt as a result of Leftist Globalism. Cleveland's population declined by 60%. Similar things happened to Detroit, Chicago, Flint, Ann Arbor, Youngstown and more.

Climate Change will have economic and political knock-on effects that will be destabalizing to our current system. You want to deal with the consequences of Climate Change? One of them is finishing the fucking border wall.

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